Brent Barry rips analytics detractors “some people need to get out of their cave.”

[EddieS2010]

Brent Barry “Talent, you’ll always need talent, but to think that they don’t use the numbers to benefit their team and use that as a tool to be better, you gotta get out of that cave.”

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[The 24th Letter]

Looking forward to Barkley's rebuttal without "he never played the game" to fall back on....

[ProfessaPackMan]

This whole thing is just funny to me.

One side basically saying " Screw you and your Calculator" and the other side saying "You're not that good and I can use my calculator to prove it".

Obviously it's not that black/white but it's still funny to read the arguments from both sides.

[Dice]

This argument goes beyond basketball. Advanced metrics is being used, and argued against, in all the major sports.

[SteelersFreak]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dice

This argument goes beyond basketball. Advanced metrics is being used, and argued against, in all the major sports.

Yup, its a comparably big debate in soccer. I don't think its quite as big of a deal in football because I don't think there's quite as much contention about it in football. And of course we all know how big it is (although moreso was at this point) in baseball.

[LingeringRegime]

Most small market teams don't have much of a choice not to use analytics.

MKG, was an analytics pick and he certainly does much more than indicated on the box score.

At the end of the day,I think analytics can coexist with other methods of evaluating talent.

It's not either or.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Why do you say most small market teams don't have much of a choice?

[LingeringRegime]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Why do you say most small market teams don't have much of a choice?

Because most "Superstars" don't want to go play in a small market. See Charlotte as an example, the biggest "star" we have landed through FA is Al Jefferson. We could never get a marquis player, our only chance is to lucky in the draft or use analytics to find pieces that will thrive in Clifford's system.