May be best to avoid the DEMO if you own FIFA...

[Walt Frazier]

Have really enjoyed FIFA up until now..........but, after playing half a dozen games of the PES DEMO, it just destroyed my enjoyment of FIFA.


The PES AI is so, so much better. Building up, plays possession football when ahead, teams are different...........argh. It just killed FIFA 15 for me.


I really didn't want to buy two football games this year........


Guess I will though. Tried playing FIFA 15 after the PES demo and it hit me like a truck how 'limited' its AI is...


Kind of wish I'd never tried the PES 15 demo.

[xicpanad]

Well, if it makes you feel better we´re kind of on the same boat here. Now Fifa its not that bad. I ended up buying PES pc version because even being good, it´s not good enough for 69$, no way. Fifa has a way more complete package worth the money.

Also, PES plays great in build up, but believe me, its going to disapoint you a little after some time. Its just better then previous editions but it still has to make some things right. For instance, one on ones have no challenge at all, through balls are hugely overpowered, and GK´s need more work for their reactions. Its not gamebreaking, but noticeable you know? Same as Fifa when you start noticing the little details that tear the inicial awesomeness, and then these anoyances start being repetitive over time.

Its a pretty solid game, but the "king is back" praising that started over internet forums is nonsense to me. Too bad the only way to see it is actually playing the full version for a good amount of time. Now, don´t get me wrong. If you can own both, do it. I find myself playing Fifa but then, once a while I fire up PES and have some fun with it. Just saying, Fifa keeps giving me the most complete fun in overall.

[Walt Frazier]

Ultimately, I want the CPU teams to olay differently each game...and they do in PES. Thus, I am switching.

I mainly play basketball games, so I have been putting FIFA in once or twice a week for a game and enjoying it. Last week though I was sick and stuck at home. I played almost all afternoon and it hit me lthat the AI for CPU teams in FIFA is identical. I agree with this:

http://www.operationsports.com/featu...nting-mystery/

No game will ever be perfect, but at least PES offeres a new challenge each time.

Similarly NBA 2K is not perfect, but each CPU AI team is actually different.

I made a bad mistake buying NBA Live and the cpu AI teams in that game are also identical EA Sports seems incapable of diferentiating CPU teams in any sports game unfortunately...

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by Walt Frazier

Ultimately, I want the CPU teams to olay differently each game...and they do in PES. Thus, I am switching. I mainly play basketball games, so I have been putting FIFA in once or twice a week for a game and enjoying it. Last week though I was sick and stuck at home. I played almost all afternoon and it hit me lthat the AI for CPU teams in FIFA is identical. I agree with this: http://www.operationsports.com/featu...nting-mystery/ No game will ever be perfect, but at least PES offeres a new challenge each time. Similarly NBA 2K is not perfect, but each CPU AI team is actually different. I made a bad mistake buying NBA Live and the cpu AI teams in that game are also identical EA Sports seems incapable of differentiating CPU teams in any sports game unfortunately...

Fifa has been like this since the dawn of time and it pretty much why I have stayed away from them for a while now after realizing it won't change because it will alienate it's core fan base. Any who, don't want to turn this into a Fifa vs. PES but I hope you eventually give PES 2015 a try this year, it is truly special IMO.

[xicpanad]

I have in PC, just because it is cheaper. Demo on X1 doesn´t let us test it properly. How the hell I can test gameplay only in regular or Superstar?

Anyway, bought on PC just to see if actually game grows on me. I do enjoy the gameplay and AI, best of it. But somethings still gives me doubts, such as GK´s sometimes. Most of the time gameplay is absolutely amazing, but now and then also gives me that "meh" feeling. Some goals feel cheap, because of GK´s and overpowered through ball.

Quite enjoying it, but not enough to spend 60$ yet.

[Yeats]

I have the PC version of FIFA 15 and with gameplay mods it plays an excellent and fun game of sim football. Love PES 2015 as well, got it today after playing the demo. Two great games, I switch back and forth between them and couldn't be happier.

[Walt Frazier]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeats

I have the PC version of FIFA 15 and with gameplay mods it plays an excellent and fun game of sim football. Love PES 2015 as well, got it today after playing the demo. Two great games, I switch back and forth between them and couldn't be happier.

When you say "SIM", I am yet to see the CPU pass backwards at all / no build up play...


Have mods fixed that on the PC?


I didn't mind when I was playing just EPL matches, but even Barcelona never pass the ball backwards / build up.

[xicpanad]

About buildup, Fifa is more direct, but if you defend properly, CPU will play diferently. Too bad people just don´t believe this. I´ve had a ton of matches where CPU passes the ball back, when in pressure, or when it doesn´t have another option.

Guess what, people started moaning about Fifa because all teams can pass the ball like Barcelona. hmmm, PES is doing the same thing, but in a even more acurate way. Sometimes its really impossible to get the ball. I know you have to sit back sometimes, and its real. But I can see the CPU sometimes keeping possession in ways it shouldn´t. Also, mentality seems broken sometimes. I´ve had a couple matches where CPU was down 1-0 and kept playing possession back in the defense, no long balls, no rush looking for the equalizer. Its wonderfull watching each team playing diferent, but I believe sometimes CPU mentality doesn´t kick in acording to the situation, and I can see already lots of people complaining this and other stuff in a couple weeks. Just give it some time.

Game is very promising, but it aint there yet.