Why did Daniel Murphy and Juan Lagares get downgraded?

[mr9inchesbpel]

Juan is worth 5.4 wins in WAR according to baseball reference but is only a 70 over all in this game, his best asset his defense hasn't been increased but they downgraded him else where in the recent roster update.

They also lowered Daniel Murphy down to an 80 as well.

If your going to change Mets attributes why haven't you boosted Zack Wheeler and Jacob DeGrom up and Juan Lagares and Eric Campbell and Familia and Vic Black as well while bringing Curtis Granderson and Bartolo Colon and Eric Young Jr down?

The Mets are now according to online ranked the 27th best overall in the game despite only being a few games behind the Atlanta Braves for second place in the division and while they aren't a good team they are atleast around mediocre.

[baseballphanatic]

I think just being on the Mets gets players automatic downgrades....what kind of world would this be if they ever won sumthin? that's like saying the Cubs are a future contender....always find ways to lose. haha no, being serious though....Murphy's previous injury might be a reason

[Bobhead]

first rule about roster updates:

stop caring about roster updates.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-released.html

Click, Download, enjoy.

[echotripper76]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

first rule about roster updates: stop caring about roster updates. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-released.html Click, Download, enjoy.

This.

Also, with this set...don't be overly concerned with overalls. Look closely at individual strengths and weaknesses of each player. Lagares, for example, has great D ratings. Match ups are important. Also, be sure to review the instructions for the set, in particular the notes regarding pitcher stamina sliders.

Very well done roster set. ;0)

[mr9inchesbpel]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

first rule about roster updates: stop caring about roster updates. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-released.html Click, Download, enjoy.

But I mostly play either online or The Show Live mode where you have to use the latest official rosters.

Also I don't really think the player attributes make a huge deal, just wondering why SCEA would downgrade good Mets players who could have used an upgrade, and avoid upgrading guys like DeGrom or Wheeler while keeping Granderson, Tejeda, and Young Jr overrated.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by echotripper76

Also, with this set...don't be overly concerned with overalls. Look closely at individual strengths and weaknesses of each player.

I think this is what sports gamers should do for any sports game. Not just a roster with "funky" ratings like the Hybrids.

OVR is just an amalgamation based on some weighted factors. You could create your own and be just as "correct".

Skill ratings are what drive performance and the player's talent profile, not OVR.

The only useful thing about OVR is in comparing to POT to get an idea of possible general upside. 70 OVR vs A POT shows a top level prospect, but where he grows is more important than if he ends up as a 90 or 99 or 85.

[cardinalbird5]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

first rule about roster updates: stop caring about roster updates. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-released.html Click, Download, enjoy.

Eh you really missed the point. The dude was complaining about online. To some people, online is everything and you can only use SCEA's rosters.

I don't blame him. I'd be upset too. Using your own team is fun and rewarding, but now when SCEA cannot even make simple roster updates. SCEA has always been inconsistent with the roster updates. They'll be quick to downgrade a veteran after a shaky start, but won't upgrade rookies or sophomores that have been solid.

[mr9inchesbpel]

Quote: Originally Posted by cardinalbird7

Eh you really missed the point. The dude was complaining about online. To some people, online is everything and you can only use SCEA's rosters. I don't blame him. I'd be upset too. Using your own team is fun and rewarding, but now when SCEA cannot even make simple roster updates. SCEA has always been inconsistent with the roster updates. They'll be quick to downgrade a veteran after a shaky start, but won't upgrade rookies or sophomores that have been solid.

This, in the new roster update it seems like they changed player ratings again and downgraded Jacob DeGrom, he is potentially the NL rookie of the year and had a great season yet he is a 71 overall and a B in potential, basically he is rated pretty much the same as Rafael Montero he is rated like 1 point better then Dice K Matsuzaka he is rated worse then what most mediocre starters in the game are rated ( which is around a 78 ) as well.


They boosted Daniel Murphy back up but didn't boost some other guys up, I looked at some attributes on teams all over the league and some of them were way off.



One of the new guys they added Terrance Gore on the Royals, he is rated very very low and probably one of the worst players in the game with a 51 overall rating, I understand he isn't a good hitter... but even his speed and base running attributes are nothing special.

A few weeks ago the Mets were 27th overall ( I haven't checked the new roster update yet ) of teams in vs online, yet the Mets were a second place team this season. Sure the division wasn't good this year, and sure they aren't really a very good team, but they atleast have a good young starting rotation and bullpen which this game doesn't really show.