NFL2k5 really best football game?

[taochi72]

I tried everything, tweaking sliders....rosters.......
well.....
problems you CAN'T SOLVE:
1) Bad cpu Qb %. Some games they are SO DUMB and throws lot of bull****s.
2) Unreal pass rush. Offensive line lot of times start to be DUMB! Don't block nothing.....especially the center of the line...****sh to the Qb easily. And that affects Qb %
3) NO PUNT RETURN. Returning team don't block nothing! Kicking team are all....repeat...all over the running man.
And these are the biggests problems, there are others.....

When i leaved madden (that now i really think has MINOR problems and tweaking you CAN solve or reduce) is for the gameplay. I wanted a real, competitive gameplay. NFL 2k5 doesn't gives you that....sorry....but that's the true.

[GlennN]

Quote: Originally Posted by taochi72

I tried everything, tweaking sliders....rosters....... well..... problems you CAN'T SOLVE: 1) Bad cpu Qb %. Some games they are SO DUMB and throws lot of bull****s. 2) Unreal pass rush. Offensive line lot of times start to be DUMB! Don't block nothing.....especially the center of the line...****sh to the Qb easily. And that affects Qb % 3) NO PUNT RETURN. Returning team don't block nothing! Kicking team are all....repeat...all over the running man. And these are the biggests problems, there are others..... When i leaved madden (that now i really think has MINOR problems and tweaking you CAN solve or reduce) is for the gameplay. I wanted a real, competitive gameplay. NFL 2k5 doesn't gives you that....sorry....but that's the true.

Personal taste, I suppose. Yes, there is no "perfect" game and both Madden 25 and NFL 2k5 have deep flaws (which should be surprising since Madden had another 10 years to refine its game). I do agree with number one above - 2k5 does have issues with cpu QBs playing well enough. Ironically, though Madden completely fails the opposite way - every QB is Peyton Manning shredding the D. I'd call this a draw. As to #2, we totally disagree - Madden has not used its 10 years of development to even match the OL/DL interaction in 2K5, let alone improve it. We still see suction blocking and no real physics in the line play. As to PR, again, we disagree - these are better for me in 2k5 than Madden. I'll then add that Madden almost has the running game now as good as 2k5 was, but that playing defense in Madden is still light years short of 2k5. Presentation and the draft module, favor 2k5 also (though, again, the draft module does have deep flaws). Given the fact that a decade separates these games, it is a disgrace we even have to debate which is better. And THAT is the truth.

[K33057]

In truth, APF IS the Best onfield fb game..
Lets Pray 2k puts out another one...

[GlennN]

Quote: Originally Posted by K33057

In truth, APF IS the Best onfield fb game.. Lets Pray 2k puts out another one...

I'm an offline franchise gamer, so APF just didn't work for me. I agree that I hope 2k puts out another game (with a franchise mode!).

[UNC_Pete]

Quote: Originally Posted by taochi72

I tried everything, tweaking sliders....rosters....... well..... problems you CAN'T SOLVE: 1) Bad cpu Qb %. Some games they are SO DUMB and throws lot of bull****s. 2) Unreal pass rush. Offensive line lot of times start to be DUMB! Don't block nothing.....especially the center of the line...****sh to the Qb easily. And that affects Qb % 3) NO PUNT RETURN. Returning team don't block nothing! Kicking team are all....repeat...all over the running man. And these are the biggests problems, there are others..... When i leaved madden (that now i really think has MINOR problems and tweaking you CAN solve or reduce) is for the gameplay. I wanted a real, competitive gameplay. NFL 2k5 doesn't gives you that....sorry....but that's the true.

Using GillBoldberg's rosters and sliders Tyrelle Pryor just lit up my Eagles D for 275 and 4 TDs last night. I believe he was somewhere around 13/19 as they were running McFadden and I was selling out trying to stop the run.

Punt returns are possible, just need a good punt returner. I use DJax and I've returned a punt or two.

The O line does seem to be a problem, but sometimes I am holding on to the ball way too long.

[taochi72]

I tried 2k4.......
After half time (all pro):
- cpu q %: 23%
- Punt returns: seems receiving team block a little more
- Pass rush: . The problem is not on the center of the defense like 2k5, but the sides (after half time i was sacked 6 time).
I don't see difference, so i think i 'll never test more or tweak the sliders of 2k4.

Hum offensive line in 2k seems like the OL of the Seattle (reserve) vs Texans

[NYG 5]

uhhhhhh

played the steelers as the raiders the other day.

QB passing wasn't so hot. however, the secondary i built up was pretty decent.

returned a punt about 50 yards for a TD. have returned many punts for TDs in the 10 years this game has been out. kickoffs are nigh impossible to return though.

was sacked once on 28 or so pass attempts. don't know what you're seeing. your 5 linemen 95% of the time pick up 5 pass rushers. sacked big ben once.

previous two games i played as the browns i got beat down by the patriots and the bills.

the ai isnt broken

[Segagendude]

I think it's still great. And I could only imagine how much better it'd be on ps3/ xbox AND next gen.

They didn't have patches back then, either, but I'm sure if there were, 2k would've corrected some of these issues.