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Old 10-01-2013, 01:00 PM   #1
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Next Gen M25 Game Play Trailers Vs Next Gen M25 Game Play

Let me state upfront even though I currently do not enjoy Madden, this thread is simply about pointing out that there is actual game play video available for next gen Madden 25, other than the trailers. I am NOT trying to persuade anyone of anything concerning Madden, we are all entitled to our own opinion but not our own set of facts. I think there has been some unintended confusion and some intentional marketing distraction which has marginalized the other available game play footage and emphasized the trailers. Take a look at these videos, two trailers and two other game play videos, ALL OF THEM ARE NEXT GEN MADDEN 25, compare. Also feel free to post any screen shot comparisons of the varying videos in this thread.

NEXT GEN MADDEN 25 GAME PLAY TRAILERS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWVSwEtJQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4DdxdIHwN0

MORE NEXT GEN MADDEN 25 GAME PLAY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2xmhUY9Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM (NOTE*- In this ESPN MNF video EA has stated that the video was not encoded properly by ESPN causing the video to be of low quality. At the time of this posting neither EA nor ESPN had replaced this video with one properly encoded for higher quality.)
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:09 PM   #2
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Let me state upfront even though I currently do not enjoy Madden, this thread is simply about pointing out that there is actual game play video available for next gen Madden 25, other than the trailers. I am NOT trying to persuade anyone of anything concerning Madden, we are all entitled to our own opinion but not our own set of facts. I think there has been some unintended confusion and some intentional marketing distraction which has marginalized the other available game play footage and emphasized the trailers. Take a look at these videos, two trailers and two other game play videos, ALL OF THEM ARE NEXT GEN MADDEN 25, compare. Also feel free to post any screen shot comparisons of the varying videos in this thread.

NEXT GEN MADDEN 25 GAME PLAY TRAILERS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWVSwEtJQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4DdxdIHwN0

MORE NEXT GEN MADDEN 25 GAME PLAY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2xmhUY9Hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM (NOTE*- In this ESPN MNF video EA has stated that the video was not encoded properly by ESPN causing the video to be of low quality. At the time of this posting neither EA nor ESPN had replaced this video with one properly encoded for higher quality.)
i don't know how a proper encode would change all the same animations, and td celebrations. Also it looks very 'dark'. in an odd way it reminds me of madden 06 when i first saw it. Obviously better graphics but it had a dark grainy look to it. What a buzzkill by EA.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:15 PM   #3
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My big thing is encoding or not the Miami v New Orleans game shown looks worse than the AP tech demo from E3. From a player movement and animations standpoint. Even in the trailer Chris Johnson does not move like AP did during the E3 demo.

I didn't think the E3 demo was perfect, far from it, but it appeared they were going in the right direction with the player to player interaction and certainly could have improved on it by November release. The ESPN video and the EA trailer show a completely different style of collision animations not just the animations themselves. It's the same style we have seen for the past two years of Madden.

As others have pointed out the still renders of next gen that were recently released lack a lot of the detail that the E3 renders had.

Now I will have to admit in the EA trailer the lighting was fantastic. Up there with FIFA in terms of stadium lighting and probably the best I have ever seen in how the lighting effects shadows on players.

That being said I can't get over that old feeling of being shown one thing early and then a lot of the things shown just vanishing into thin air.

In the end I'm still impressed with the lighting and graphics of the game, but very disappointed it seems like they couldn't execute on the engine they seemed to have shown at E3.

And as NicVirtue pointed out in another thread. What in the world was this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWVSwEtJQU

Because the player movement in the ESPN and EA videos look NOTHING like the running back movement in those videos. See that big ACTUAL GAME FOOTAGE tag on the video? What happened to that game?

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Old 10-01-2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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I hate it that when it comes to Madden there is always so many question marks. There's never a year when we can all marvel at it, much like what 2K has done with NBA 2K 14 for next gen. It shouldn't have to be this way. But I'll just wait on the gameplay and AI trailers to come out. If it doesn't look like the E3 trailer in terms of movement and animations, I'll label net gen a bust too. I want this game to be as good as I hope it to be, I really do, but I can't forget we're dealing with EA.
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That very first trailer had me hyped about what it could be. Everything else brought me back down to reality. Dudes just need to recapture damn near every animation. Something is severely wrong at Tiburon when it comes to animations and interactions.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:26 PM   #6
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I'm underwhelmed what's been shown so far, but I know there is more to show, so, hoping for the best and expecting not much.

I'm more interested in the topics that are following.

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That very first trailer had me hyped about what it could be. Everything else brought me back down to reality. Dudes just need to recapture damn near every animation. Something is severely wrong at Tiburon when it comes to animations and interactions.
I remember watching one of their Motion Capture videos some time ago, and they had the QB (Not an actual QB at all) shuffle backwards and forwards the exact same way in these most recent Maddens. Even the QB avoidance moves, the way he did them was exactly the way it is in the game. I blame the people doing the mo-cap just as much as the people in charge of putting them in the game.
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Instead of WIP, it turned out to be WIR: Work in Regression

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