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Old 05-25-2013, 09:26 AM   #1
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ICE DEFENSE ON PICK & ROLL

Does anybody know what the Def settings are for this defense in NBA 2K13?

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Old 05-25-2013, 10:38 AM   #2
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Re: ICE DEFENSE ON PICK & ROLL

You have to do it manually. You have to keep one of your bigs in a constant help position. The bulls always keep a 4 or 5 in between the ball and the rim. In the video you will constantly see Noah running to the ball side of the floor standing behind the perimeter defender.

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Old 05-25-2013, 10:46 AM   #3
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Re: ICE DEFENSE ON PICK & ROLL

While the Bulls do have such a system, as stated on the video, they know when to do it, as it is dependant on who is on the court and who they want taking those long 2. So is on a matchup vs matchup basses.

2k i.e.

- Boozer vs Blatche => sag off (on ball & off ball) / under (defending pick)
- Noah vs Lopez => sag off (on ball & off ball) / under (defending pick)
- Butler/Deng vs Wallace => sag off (on ball & off ball) / under (defending pick)
- Rose/Rob/Kirk vs DWill => tight (on ball & off ball) / over (defending pick)
- Rip/Belli vs JoeJ => tight (on ball & off ball) / over (defending pick)
Defend man to man, on ball, deny the middle and lean players to where the help D is, so the rotation doesnt have to overcome a good distance


If you want you can also alter the following coach sliders ...
- put help D around 70-80 (could be higher but I tend not to, to avoid overcommitment)
- put preassure around 80-90 (can also be higher, CHI is one of the best defending the 3)
Thus I only do it if the first set of steps dont provide me with the results.


A key variable that affects the performance of this is the players DAw, a team of bad defenders (and/or slow ones) can only do so much. As IRL, in 2k, CHI is great (specially if is of a worthy custom roster).

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Old 05-26-2013, 12:35 PM   #4
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Re: ICE DEFENSE ON PICK & ROLL

What about the hedge setting?

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While the Bulls do have such a system, as stated on the video, they know when to do it, as it is dependant on who is on the court and who they want taking those long 2. So is on a matchup vs matchup basses.

2k i.e.

- Boozer vs Blatche => sag off (on ball & off ball) / under (defending pick)
- Noah vs Lopez => sag off (on ball & off ball) / under (defending pick)
- Butler/Deng vs Wallace => sag off (on ball & off ball) / under (defending pick)
- Rose/Rob/Kirk vs DWill => tight (on ball & off ball) / over (defending pick)
- Rip/Belli vs JoeJ => tight (on ball & off ball) / over (defending pick)
Defend man to man, on ball, deny the middle and lean players to where the help D is, so the rotation doesnt have to overcome a good distance


If you want you can also alter the following coach sliders ...
- put help D around 70-80 (could be higher but I tend not to, to avoid overcommitment)
- put preassure around 80-90 (can also be higher, CHI is one of the best defending the 3)
Thus I only do it if the first set of steps dont provide me with the results.


A key variable that affects the performance of this is the players DAw, a team of bad defenders (and/or slow ones) can only do so much. As IRL, in 2k, CHI is great (specially if is of a worthy custom roster).
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:28 PM   #5
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Re: ICE DEFENSE ON PICK & ROLL

ICE is the opposite of hedging. By hedging, the defense is forced to send a third defender over to cover the roll to the basket by the screener, since the screeners man is so high to slow down the ball handler coming off the pick. By playing ICE (forcing the ballhandler away from the screen, having the screeners man sink down into the lane to contain the drive and/or roll), the screeners man is able to take away both the drive and the roll, making it much more difficult to score.

tl;dr: Set hedge settings to 'No Hedge'
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Re: ICE DEFENSE ON PICK & ROLL

Yup, i've started doing this like about a week ago after watching Coach Nick's videos. Set your pick defense to no hedge and manually shade your opponent away from the screen. So i set up my defender right next to the screener instead of right in front of the ball handler. This makes getting around picks much much easier.
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Yup, i've started doing this like about a week ago after watching Coach Nick's videos. Set your pick defense to no hedge and manually shade your opponent away from the screen. So i set up my defender right next to the screener instead of right in front of the ball handler. This makes getting around picks much much easier.
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The man that is analyzing the video above in the OP, smart guy.
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