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hanzsomehanz · 05-14-2013, 02:07 PM

Debate: What constitutes Simulation versus Arcade?

Opinion Survey

Is there a neutral ground for features that are neither SIM nor Arcade?

Which road do you prefer: the road for race purity or do you you prefer the hybrid "best of both worlds"?

Can SIM exist in Arcade and can Arcade coexist in a SIM environment, harmoniously? IF so, how so?

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DeuceDouglas · 05-14-2013, 02:10 PM

This should go over well.

CFTejada · 05-14-2013, 02:19 PM

Madden will never be truly Sim; It will be catered to the average gamer. That's how it is & that's how it will always be.

reddogmaddogbul · 05-14-2013, 02:23 PM

No they can not.Just make football no gimmick just football..If you want arcade play Madden Arcade

hanzsomehanz · 05-14-2013, 02:27 PM

Not on the topic of *what will be.

* There will be No fortune telling.

I appreciate the pic featuring an Arcade concept of animated characters.

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SageInfinite · 05-14-2013, 02:27 PM

Bottom line IMO is that EA and Tiburon doesn't feel that it's worth the time and effort to make the game more realistic because it is already selling as is, and most people won't even notice or care about the extra effort put in. Devs have deadlines, they want to meet those deadlines so features get axed or dumbed down. On top of that I don't even think the devs care about things looking realistic, they just want the game functioning for the most part, and they want it functioning on time.

The devs think from a casual standpoint, so that's how the game is developed. They have to change that mind frame or nothing will change. Next gen is the true test.

Only1LT · 05-14-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hanzsomehanz


	Debate: What constitutes Simulation versus Arcade? Opinion Survey Is there a neutral ground for features that are neither SIM nor Arcade? Which road do you prefer: the road for race purity or do you you prefer the hybrid "best of both worlds"? Can SIM exist in Arcade and can Arcade coexist in a SIM environment, harmoniously? IF so, how so? Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2

We've had threads like this in the past, but I'll give my answers.

There is no neutral ground for sim and arcade.

I prefer the road of ultra-realism and all unrealism, even as an option, be damned.

Sim and arcade can share a dysfunctional existence in the same game, but there will never be sim in a game that has arcade as its base.

N51_rob · 05-14-2013, 02:29 PM

We've had this conversation here numerous times. That said this thread is on very thin ice proceed with caution.

05-14-2013, 02:07 PM	#1
hanzsomehanz MVP OVR: 4 Join Date: Oct 2009	Sim vs Arcade: Madden Debate Debate: What constitutes Simulation versus Arcade? Opinion Survey Is there a neutral ground for features that are neither SIM nor Arcade? Which road do you prefer: the road for race purity or do you you prefer the hybrid "best of both worlds"? Can SIM exist in Arcade and can Arcade coexist in a SIM environment, harmoniously? IF so, how so? Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2 __________________ how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

05-14-2013, 02:10 PM	#2
DeuceDouglas Madden Dev Team OVR: 22 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,313	Re: Sim vs Arcade: Madden Debate This should go over well. MysteriousPanther, d11king, roadman and 6 others like this. __________________ Madden Franchise Mode: It's Time to Be Classic Twitter

05-14-2013, 02:19 PM	#3
CFTejada Rookie OVR: 7 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgia	Re: Sim vs Arcade: Madden Debate Madden will never be truly Sim; It will be catered to the average gamer. That's how it is & that's how it will always be. ERA and howboutdat like this. __________________ 2010 OS March Madness Winner Falcons Braves Bulldogs

05-14-2013, 02:23 PM	#4
reddogmaddogbul Rookie OVR: 7 Join Date: Jul 2010	Re: Sim vs Arcade: Madden Debate No they can not.Just make football no gimmick just football..If you want arcade play Madden Arcade Trick13 likes this. __________________ My You Tube channel:http://www.youtube.com/user/MegaFoot...6?feature=mhee Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/Mega_Football Mega Football is in the building.

05-14-2013, 02:27 PM	#5
hanzsomehanz MVP OVR: 4 Join Date: Oct 2009	Not on the topic of what will be. There will be No fortune telling. I appreciate the pic featuring an Arcade concept of animated characters. Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk 2 __________________ how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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05-14-2013, 02:27 PM	#6
SageInfinite Stop The GOAT Talk OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 11,931	Re: Sim vs Arcade: Madden Debate Bottom line IMO is that EA and Tiburon doesn't feel that it's worth the time and effort to make the game more realistic because it is already selling as is, and most people won't even notice or care about the extra effort put in. Devs have deadlines, they want to meet those deadlines so features get axed or dumbed down. On top of that I don't even think the devs care about things looking realistic, they just want the game functioning for the most part, and they want it functioning on time. The devs think from a casual standpoint, so that's how the game is developed. They have to change that mind frame or nothing will change. Next gen is the true test. Papa D, Sausage, bucky60 and 3 others like this. __________________ http://twitter.com/sageinfinite SageInfinite Bandcamp https://sageinfinite.bandcamp.com/album/interminable https://soundcloud.com/sageinfinite Hidden Language Video Feat. Grandmilly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf5nW4rGTFM #makethemaddenforumgreatagain

05-14-2013, 02:29 PM	#8
N51_rob Faceuary! OVR: 54 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Howard County, MD (the HoCo) Posts: 14,831 Blog Entries: 51	Re: Sim vs Arcade: Madden Debate We've had this conversation here numerous times. That said this thread is on very thin ice proceed with caution. Sheen_O_Mack, roadman, mestevo and 2 others like this. __________________ Moderator PSN:gr8juan Twitch Finally Access to Coaches Tape! Coaches Film Analysis 2 Minute Warning PS4 Madden 18 Franchise Washington Redskins (0-0) Last Game: N/A Year 1:

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