Anyone notice how WWE games have made no new innovations since NO MERCY?

[CurryMan]

I would say No Mercy is even better any other wresting game today with those epic non linear storylines.

[stlpimpmonsta]

No innovations imply todays game is like no mercy which isnt true. Better? sure but not more innovative

[dochalladay32]

Quote: Originally Posted by CurryMan

I would say No Mercy is even better any other wresting game today with those epic non linear storylines.

No Mercy had Hell in a Cell? Only a poor quality one with Gameshark.

Did it have the Elimination Chamber? No.

6 people in the ring? Nope.

Great visuals... ouch. Tacky short entrances and poor quality themes.

It's editing, though, owns today's. If only we could have edited movesets back then without fooling around with a Gameshark.

Absolutely great game and I still enjoy playing it today, but it is hard to look at knowing what we have today, no matter how poor it may seem at times.

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by dochalladay32

No Mercy had Hell in a Cell? Only a poor quality one with Gameshark. Did it have the Elimination Chamber? No. 6 people in the ring? Nope. Great visuals... ouch. Tacky short entrances and poor quality themes. It's editing, though, owns today's. If only we could have edited movesets back then without fooling around with a Gameshark. Absolutely great game and I still enjoy playing it today, but it is hard to look at knowing what we have today, no matter how poor it may seem at times.

That's like slamming SmackDown! 2 for not having Know Your Enemy as the theme song. Of course it won't have something that wasn't a thing yet.

My two cents- No Mercy is the NFL 2K5 of wrestling. No matter what, you will see those who go "Nah man, it'll never be as good as No Mercy." In some ways, those people have valid points and it's obvious that areas of No Mercy (like momentum and fatigue) continue to shine over Pred tech.

While obviously you can't compare Nintendo 64 graphics with the power of today's consoles, THQ was able to provide a more memorable experience (by and large) on a cartridge than what I find on a dual-layer disc for $59.99.

I don't know if it's a Yukes problem (though AKI made No Mercy, so maybe?), I don't know if it's a THQ problem, I just know that I popped in Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 today and it had dramatically superior graphics and gameplay to WWE '12. Not even freaking exaggerating. Obnoxious control scheme, but nothing is perfect I suppose.

There have been graphical downgrades, barebones modes, torched servers, and more...For what? If this comes off as complete b****ing and moaning, there is definitely some pent up frustration. At the end of the day though, I just want to truly enjoy a WWE game again.

I guess the question for me isn't 'Will a game ever beat No Mercy?', it's 'Am I too jaded to ever accept that day when it does?'

[goh]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedZoneD25

I guess the question for me isn't 'Will a game ever beat No Mercy?', it's 'Am I too jaded to ever accept that day when it does?'

Most seem to be. Fire Pro R > No Mercy.

[matthawk]

They have come up with some new ideas, but they also took a lot away over the years. I like the new pinning system, but I hate the way chain grappling is overdone. I like the idea of signatures, but I hate the linear way you go about getting (and using) them. I really miss having a CPU that feels like it's trying new things and wants to beat you.

For me the biggest issue I have with recent WWE games is how boring they have come to play. I know it's not me growing out of it because I still love to play the 'classics' (NM, FPR, DOR2, HCTP).

WWE All-stars has been the best wrestling game to come out since DOR2/FPR. It was FUN, and had some depth to the gameplay. That engine (especially love the reversals) could have been a great foundation for some seriously great games.

[Franchise408]

As much as I love Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy, to say the new games have no innovation is just wrong.

WWE Universe Mode is a very innovative feature, even if it still hasn't reached its full potential.

[Playmaker76]

Someone mentioned FPW. It's a great game once you figure it out, but it's just one of those games that you have to take lots of time with.