MLB 12 The Show Pitch Repertoires Corrections Thread

[Russell_SCEA]

Just post the full name of the player and the pitch(s) edits that needs to be made. Please provide proof that the player does or doesn't throw the pitch(s) you are posting about.




Player Name:
What Pitch(s) needs to be added or removed:

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

Chris Sale:
- Add Slider
- Remove Sweeping Curveball

Proof:
Interview with Chris Sale 9/4/11

Fangraphs

Article

[Qb]

Charlie Morton, SP, Pittsburgh

ADD: Sinker, Cutter
REMOVE: Slider

New Repertoire: SNK, CV, CH, 4FB, CUT

He needs a sinker with lots of movement as his primary pitch. He rarely throws a traditional 4-seamer, and even that isn't all that straight due to his low 3/4s arm slot. 4SFB should be his #4 pitch behind the curve & change and ahead of his cutter. Individual average pitch velocities and usage numbers can be found at each of the links.

Here is his Fangraphs PITCHf/x page. Notice the use of what's classified as a two-seam fastball (FT) 65.8% of the time. The 2011 movement on this pitch is (-9.1, 1.6), which is quite a lot for a fastball to say the least.

For a comparison, Roy Halladay's much-ballyhooed sinker/two-seamer (again classified as 2SFB by Fangraphs) checks in at (-9.7, 3.2). So Morton gets slightly less armside run with somewhat more sink. Obviously, "Ground Chuck" doesn't have the command over the pitch Halladay does, but in terms of movement (and velocity), they are strikingly similar. But in case you don't believe me, there is a video on the subject as well: http://youtu.be/iWGzVATURK0 (sorry, won't embed)


To get a visual feel for how his pitches move (and frequency), here is a great catcher's perspective spin movement graph from his Texas Leaguers page. I used from August on due to some mid-season changes in his repertoire, notably more cutters and fewer sliders, as well as more fading changeups than straight-changes.

[seanjeezy]

Felix Hernandez
What Pitch(s) needs to be added or removed:
2-seam removed
Changeup removed
Sinker added
Circle Change added

Also the Sinker needs to be his primary pitch and the Circle Change his #2 based on his pitch usage numbers from last year

His 4SB velocity needs to be toned down and his Sinker velocity needs to be boosted

Edit:
Sources:
http://www.joelefkowitz.com/pitcher_card.php?pid=433587
http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.asp...772&position=P

[dingleberryfinn]

It's a lot of work, but BrooksBaseball.net will tell ya what every pitcher really throws & how often, amongst other interestin' info.
At the very least you could consider lookin' into usin' that info next year for Show13.

[Melanconfan]

Ivan Nova:
- Add Slider

http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/2011/0...van-nova-34568

Quote:

This season, Nova throws his fastball about the same amount of the time (62%) but he has mixed in his slider, throwing it 11% of the time, largely to the detriment of his changeup, which he now throws just 5% of the time.

http://www.baseballanalytics.org/bas...er-slider.html

Quote:

Nova tinkered with a slider in spring training, but he mainly stuck to his fastball, curveball and changeup early on in the 2011 season. Starting in June, however, Nova began to mix in the sharp, mid-to-upper-80s pitch more frequently. For a guy who was criticized as a prospect for lacking a true "out pitch," Nova's slider is quickly turning into just that.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by dingleberryfinn

It's a lot of work, but BrooksBaseball.net will tell ya what every pitcher really throws & how often, amongst other interestin' info. At the very least you could consider lookin' into usin' that info next year for Show13.

But if the guys posting would look it up for this year and post the link to the page...that would facilitate it getting done this year!

Just a thought!

M.K.
Knight165

[dingleberryfinn]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knight165

But if the guys posting would look it up for this year and post the link to the page...that would facilitate it getting done this year! Just a thought! M.K. Knight165

lol true!
I wish I could do a link but I'm lame when it comes to computery stuffs, lmao

but Chris Carpenter should definitely have sinker & cutter added
& the slider removed
see Brooks Baseball.net Chris Carpenter