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RaychelSnr · 12-23-2011, 12:57 PM

If you’d like to believe the press release, FIFA 12 outsold PES 2012 at a 25-to-1 clip. Even though I’m a little cynical of that figure myself, it’s hard not to anoint FIFA as this console generation’s footy-game king. Yes, PES still has pockets of hardcore support in various places around the world — Japan, Europe (with the notable exception of the UK) and Latin America — but the momentum is definitely on FIFA’s side. PES is looking like an army that’s ceding territory left and right as the mighty FIFA machine marches on.

Is all hope lost? Of course not.

First and most importantly, PES is still making money — which, no matter what game companies’ friendly PR departments will try to have you believe, is the most crucial aspect. And FIFA, despite what EA will have you believe, is eminently catchable and can be dethroned. And so, here are a few humble suggestions as to what the PES franchise should do if they are serious about a comeback.

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Cod · 12-23-2011, 06:03 PM

Great entry and I enjoyed reading it! I agree with a lot of what you said and can only hope Konami feels the same way. I believe its a little more than PES getting better though, because FIFA is one of the most innovative franchises in EA's portfolio (see the Impact Engine). Bottom line, until FIFA becomes more stagnant from year to year, there is nothing PES can do to pass it...only slowly catch it.

spit_bubble · 12-23-2011, 06:10 PM

They're not going to catch FIFA any time soon.

FIFA got out of the gates quick as one of the better sports games this generation, showcasing technology and controls that felt more "next gen" than most of it's contemporaries, and they've been backed by one of the more powerful marketing machines in the business. That's a lot to overcome, especially for a small operation like Konami.

PES is still the better game though. Always has been.

Profit89 · 12-24-2011, 10:00 AM

PES is better imo this year. Gameplay wise.

milin · 12-24-2011, 02:20 PM

I also prefer PES this year. I can't stand FIFA's stupid A.I. and the lack of fouls called. But FIFA is the prettier game all around, but gameplay wise, it sucks, at least to me.

fugazi · 12-24-2011, 02:27 PM

just port WE9 and they'd be closer...

but why no player swaps in ML?
why no player improvement when you loaned him out?
why no in-between-game management like "regulate condition"?

Why does "this-gen" PES have less than "older-gen"?

KG · 12-24-2011, 02:39 PM

All they need to do is add the EPL license. Personally all the other leagues FIFA has that PES doesn't are meaningless to me. I don't think many people play in the Austrian, Norwegian or Polish leagues. You really only need their top 2 clubs to rotate for Champions/Europa league.

I don't understand why Konami doesn't throw up a server for online option file sharing. I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to go through the option file loading shenanigans.

carnalnirvana · 12-24-2011, 07:27 PM

i already feel this game is better than fifa !!!

if they add a roster share option like ncaa football or nba2k... it would get more recognition.

then....

if they got bigger player models/ crisper visuals it would bring in the casuals.....

fifa is popular, but anyone who wants real football i dont see how they can get that from fifa...

fifa is like COD its fun for all the wrong reasons, and i love COD

12-23-2011, 12:57 PM	#1
RaychelSnr Executive Editor OVR: 57 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,846 Blog Entries: 490	What PES Needs to Do to Catch FIFA If you’d like to believe the press release, FIFA 12 outsold PES 2012 at a 25-to-1 clip. Even though I’m a little cynical of that figure myself, it’s hard not to anoint FIFA as this console generation’s footy-game king. Yes, PES still has pockets of hardcore support in various places around the world — Japan, Europe (with the notable exception of the UK) and Latin America — but the momentum is definitely on FIFA’s side. PES is looking like an army that’s ceding territory left and right as the mighty FIFA machine marches on. Is all hope lost? Of course not. First and most importantly, PES is still making money — which, no matter what game companies’ friendly PR departments will try to have you believe, is the most crucial aspect. And FIFA, despite what EA will have you believe, is eminently catchable and can be dethroned. And so, here are a few humble suggestions as to what the PES franchise should do if they are serious about a comeback. Read More - What PES Needs to Do to Catch FIFA Platform: Xbox 360 / PS2 / PS3 / Wii / PSP / PC

12-23-2011, 06:10 PM	#3
spit_bubble MVP OVR: 27 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,292	Re: What PES Needs to Do to Catch FIFA They're not going to catch FIFA any time soon. FIFA got out of the gates quick as one of the better sports games this generation, showcasing technology and controls that felt more "next gen" than most of it's contemporaries, and they've been backed by one of the more powerful marketing machines in the business. That's a lot to overcome, especially for a small operation like Konami. PES is still the better game though. Always has been. BIG CAROLINA and aloncho11 like this.

12-24-2011, 02:27 PM	#6
fugazi MVP OVR: 15 Join Date: Apr 2003	Re: What PES Needs to Do to Catch FIFA just port WE9 and they'd be closer... but why no player swaps in ML? why no player improvement when you loaned him out? why no in-between-game management like "regulate condition"? Why does "this-gen" PES have less than "older-gen"? __________________ Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

12-24-2011, 02:39 PM	#7
KG Welcome Back OVR: 35 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,586 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What PES Needs to Do to Catch FIFA All they need to do is add the EPL license. Personally all the other leagues FIFA has that PES doesn't are meaningless to me. I don't think many people play in the Austrian, Norwegian or Polish leagues. You really only need their top 2 clubs to rotate for Champions/Europa league. I don't understand why Konami doesn't throw up a server for online option file sharing. I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to go through the option file loading shenanigans. __________________ Twitter Instagram - kgx2thez

12-24-2011, 07:27 PM	#8
carnalnirvana Pro OVR: 21 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 1,987	Re: What PES Needs to Do to Catch FIFA i already feel this game is better than fifa !!! if they add a roster share option like ncaa football or nba2k... it would get more recognition. then.... if they got bigger player models/ crisper visuals it would bring in the casuals..... fifa is popular, but anyone who wants real football i dont see how they can get that from fifa... fifa is like COD its fun for all the wrong reasons, and i love COD __________________ NOW PLAYING: NBA Live, madden 11,12, battlefield v, F1 2020 and injustice 2 and COD:MW #18 greatest EVA....

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12-23-2011, 06:03 PM	#2
Cod MVP OVR: 10 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX	Great entry and I enjoyed reading it! I agree with a lot of what you said and can only hope Konami feels the same way. I believe its a little more than PES getting better though, because FIFA is one of the most innovative franchises in EA's portfolio (see the Impact Engine). Bottom line, until FIFA becomes more stagnant from year to year, there is nothing PES can do to pass it...only slowly catch it.

12-24-2011, 10:00 AM	#4
Profit89 Banned OVR: 8 Join Date: Feb 2006	PES is better imo this year. Gameplay wise.

12-24-2011, 02:20 PM	#5
milin Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jun 2003	I also prefer PES this year. I can't stand FIFA's stupid A.I. and the lack of fouls called. But FIFA is the prettier game all around, but gameplay wise, it sucks, at least to me.