Question on Helmets in Pro Bowl for Madden 12

[poulka]

Will Madden 12 have team specific helmets in the Pro Bowl? Has any info been provided on this topic.

[RedZoneD25]

Quote: Originally Posted by poulka

Will Madden 12 have team specific helmets in the Pro Bowl? Has any info been provided on this topic.

I'm near positive this is something they would have told us already if it were in. Take the silence as a no until proven otherwise.

[Spanky]

This was in one year in last-gen, can't remember what year but I'm fairly certain it was.
But I also recall a dev saying it messes up too many other things (frame rate, maybe?) that it's not worth it. That might be the same reason they don't have individual team uniforms in baseball all-star games.

[mestevo]

Yup, it's resource heavy to load all 32 helmets in a single game, that's why we haven't seen it. The systems certainly don't have that much overhead during games left over and is why you can see the occasional stutter/slowdown. Technology may not have been pushing a previous console hard enough or it handled resources differently so the overhead was available to load all the helmets.

[poulka]

Quote: Originally Posted by mestevo

Yup, it's resource heavy to load all 32 helmets in a single game, that's why we haven't seen it. The systems certainly don't have that much overhead during games left over and is why you can see the occasional stutter/slowdown. Technology may not have been pushing a previous console hard enough or it handled resources differently so the overhead was available to load all the helmets.

This is why I had that previous thread about things being left out in these consoles. If these console are suppposedly so much better than the previous ones why would this be an issue. PS2 Madden 02-04 had these and there was no problem. I'll also take no word as no as well.

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by poulka

This is why I had that previous thread about things being left out in these consoles. If these console are suppposedly so much better than the previous ones why would this be an issue. PS2 Madden 02-04 had these and there was no problem. I'll also take no word as no as well.

They weren't as powerful, but it doesn't mean the engine(s) and assets being used during games consumed 100% of their power which would make things like this topic possible.

[DirtyJerz32]

I don't think this is ever going to be possible.

[mercalnd]

Quote: Originally Posted by poulka

This is why I had that previous thread about things being left out in these consoles. If these console are suppposedly so much better than the previous ones why would this be an issue. PS2 Madden 02-04 had these and there was no problem. I'll also take no word as no as well.

The amount of memory required for each helmet with the detail levels of the 360/PS3 generation is exponentially bigger than what it was on XBOX and PS2. The systems have more memory but the discrepancy between the systems of both generations is much smaller than the discrepancy between the levels of details in the graphical assets used today VS back then.

People get frustrated because they're the same helmets/stadiums/whatever but they're really not the same assets at all.