Rating templates by position

[jyoung]

These are what the player ratings look like in the hex file when a position has been created with no abilities.

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Gold QB 50 speed 60 agility 90 read coverage 90 pass strength 50 stamina 90 pass accuracy 90 pocket composure

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Silver QB 50 speed 60 agility 82 read coverage 82 pass strength 50 stamina 82 pass accuracy 82 pocket composure

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Bronze QB 50 speed 60 agility 75 read coverage 75 pass strength 50 stamina 75 pass accuracy 75 pocket composure

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Generic QB “Balanced” 50 speed 60 agility 70 read coverage 70 pass strength 50 stamina 40 strength 70 pass accuracy 70 pocket composure 30 scramble

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Gold WR 92 speed 92 agility 80 stamina 60 strength 90 catch 90 jumping 90 run route 65 break tackle 50 run block 50 pass block 80 secure ball

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Generic WR “Deep Threat” 77 speed 77 agility 80 stamina 30 strength 70 jumping 60 run route 40 break tackle 60 catch 35 run block 35 pass block 80 secure ball

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Bronze TE 73 speed 73 agility 80 stamina 70 strength 68 jumping 75 run route 61 break tackle 75 catch 65 run block 65 pass block 80 secure ball

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Generic TE “Deep Threat” 60 speed 60 agility 80 stamina 60 strength 60 jumping 60 run route 50 break tackle 60 catch 55 run block 55 pass block 80 secure ball

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Gold HB 87 speed 85 agility 80 stamina 75 strength 65 catch 85 jumping 75 run route 90 break tackle 55 run block 55 pass block 90 secure ball

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Generic HB "Finesse" 71 speed 60 agility 80 stamina 55 strength 60 jumping 50 run route 60 break tackle 40 catch 40 run block 40 pass block 90 secure ball

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Gold ILB 80 speed 85 agility 80 stamina 80 strength 85 jumping 75 coverage 90 tackle 30 catch 85 pass rush 75 run coverage

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Bronze ILB 70 speed 75 agility 80 stamina 70 strength 68 jumping 60 coverage 75 tackle 30 catch 70 pass rush 65 run coverage

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Generic ILB “Run Coverage” 55 speed 60 agility 80 stamina 60 strength 60 jumping 60 coverage 60 tackle 30 catch 60 pass rush 55 run coverage

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Gold OLB 83 speed 85 agility 90 stamina 78 strength 85 jumping 78 coverage 90 tackle 30 catch 90 pass rush 75 run coverage

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Silver OLB 78 speed 80 agility 90 stamina 73 strength 77 jumping 70 coverage 82 tackle 30 catch 82 pass rush 70 run coverage

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Bronze OLB 73 speed 75 agility 90 stamina 68 strength 68 jumping 63 coverage 75 tackle 30 catch 75 pass rush 65 run coverage

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Generic OLB “Run Coverage” 60 speed 60 agility 90 stamina 60 strength 60 jumping 60 coverage 60 tackle 30 catch 60 pass rush 55 run coverage

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Bronze SS 77 speed 77 agility 85 stamina 65 strength 68 jumping 73 coverage 75 tackle 35 catch 30 pass rush 62 run coverage

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Generic SS “Coverage” 71 speed 62 agility 85 stamina 55 strength 60 jumping 60 coverage 60 tackle 35 catch 20 pass rush 52 run coverage

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Silver FS 83 speed 83 agility 85 stamina 68 strength 77 jumping 82 coverage 82 tackle 35 catch 35 pass rush 65 run coverage

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Bronze FS 78 speed 78 agility 85 stamina 63 strength 68 jumping 75 coverage 75 tackle 35 catch 30 pass rush 60 run coverage

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Generic FS “Coverage” 73 speed 63 agility 85 stamina 53 strength 60 jumping 60 coverage 60 tackle 35 catch 20 pass rush 50 run coverage

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Gold CB 92 speed 92 agility 85 stamina 62 strength 90 jumping 90 coverage 70 tackle 35 catch 50 pass rush 55 run coverage

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Bronze CB 82 speed 82 agility 85 stamina 42 strength 75 jumping 75 coverage 56 tackle 35 catch 30 pass rush 35 run coverage

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Generic CB “Coverage” 77 speed 77 agility 85 stamina 32 strength 70 jumping 60 coverage 45 tackle 35 catch 20 pass rush 25 run coverage

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Gold DE 70 speed 70 agility 70 stamina 78 strength 88 tackle 90 pass rush 85 run coverage

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Silver DE 65 speed 65 agility 70 stamina 73 strength 80 tackle 82 pass rush 78 run coverage

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Bronze DE 60 speed 60 agility 70 stamina 68 strength 73 tackle 75 pass rush 70 run coverage

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Generic DE “Run Coverage” 55 speed 55 agility 70 stamina 60 strength 60 tackle 60 pass rush 60 run coverage

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Gold DT 60 speed 60 agility 70 stamina 80 strength 90 tackle 85 pass rush 90 run coverage

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Silver DT 55 speed 55 agility 70 stamina 75 strength 82 tackle 78 pass rush 82 run coverage

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Bronze DT 50 speed 50 agility 70 stamina 70 strength 75 tackle 70 pass rush 75 run coverage

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Generic DT “Run Coverage” 45 speed 45 agility 70 stamina 60 strength 60 tackle 60 pass rush 60 run coverage

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Generic OT "Pass Block" 40 speed 45 agility 90 stamina 60 strength 60 run block 60 pass block

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Generic OG "Pass Block" 40 speed 45 agility 90 stamina 62 strength 60 run block 60 pass block

Now for the ability bonuses:

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Speed Burner +5 speed Quick Feet +5 agility Strength Bonus +5 strength Hops jumping goes to the max rating of 95 Stamina Bonus stamina goes to the max rating of 89 Durability Bonus durability goes to the max rating of 99 Secure Ball secure ball goes to the max rating of 95 Soft Hands +5 catch Brick Wall +5 pass blocking Bulldozer +5 run blocking Kick Power Bonus +5 kick power for punters and placekickers Kick Accuracy Bonus +5 kick accuracy for punters and placekickers Run Coverage +5 run coverage Pass Rush Bonus +5 pass rush Coverage Bonus +5 coverage Scrambler +5 Speed, other effects unknown Pocket Presence -10 Speed and Agility, other effects unknown

I will add to these lists as I have time.

Others can contribute as well.

Credit to tpaterni for the gold QB, CB, HB, WR, ILB, OLB info and the ability list.

Miscellaneous Notes:

The Speed Burner attribute does not work for Bronze CBs and Bronze QBs. You have to manually add +5 to their speed rating in the hex file to make it work. And if you make any changes to the player once you're inside the game, his speed value will reset again.

[Rayp]

thanks guys, is pocket presence -10 for the qb or the defenders?

[NYG 5]

its gotta be for the QB, but it probably bumps up accuracy, composure, and maybe arm strength by 10 or 5.

but i also noticed with pocket passers, the if you get defenders around him and collapse the pocket, it seems like he takes a worse composure hit than regular passers. dan marino becomes terrible if you start breathing on him, whereas joe montana it doesn't really phase him as much

[jyoung]

Legends probably aren't a good barometer to go by since they all have unique attribute ratings.

CAPs are all rated the same, though.

The bonus abilities you give CAPs are the only thing that differentiates them.

[Rayp]

lol in real life it was the same with marino imo, well atleast growin up in 90s watching the dolphins

[Vegaskingpin]

Quote: Originally Posted by NYG 5

its gotta be for the QB, but it probably bumps up accuracy, composure, and maybe arm strength by 10 or 5. but i also noticed with pocket passers, the if you get defenders around him and collapse the pocket, it seems like he takes a worse composure hit than regular passers. dan marino becomes terrible if you start breathing on him, whereas joe montana it doesn't really phase him as much

Joe was probably designed with High Composure. If I were a designer I would have the ability "Pocket Presence" give a ratings boost to accuracy while standing still but a heavy negative while trying to throw on the run, hence the speed and agility hit. For all we know while throwing on the run it probably factors agility into overall accuracy of the throw ex: (agility + pass accuracy)/2 = Scrambling Pass Accuracy. Someone could test this by giving a QB Zero agility rating and see how he throws on the run with and without Scramble ability.

Pocket Presence could also just represent the play style of the QB and not infer any bonuses. (Drew Bledsoe the Human Statue)

As for the pocket collapse/ composure rating I would represent it with the Clutch Ability. Did Marino have Clutch ability assigned? Then again he was probably designed with lower composure.

[elgreazy1]

This is some great info, even for guys like me who don't use the hex. It really helps you know your personnel and how to best create players with the best value for whatever scheme or style you're attempting to play. I'd be much appreciated if you guys continue on this and fully flesh it out over time.

I'm very surprised that Gold OLBs are far better than Gold ILBs and what's more surprising is that Gold ILBs are marginally better at run coverage. Hmm.

[elgreazy1]

On another note, I've always thought that things like Pass Rush Bonus don't just affect the specific player to which it is assigned. For example, I've noticed many times when I have a DL with Pass Rush that my Generics generally get after the QB more and the higher tiered the Legend, the more affective the Generics get. My Legend with PRB won't rack up as many sacks, but the team will and I'll notice the QB get rattled more. Where as Sack Master goes on to benefit the specific Legend more and also negatively affects the OL who's assigned to block him.

I bet there are some super complex formulas and programming associated with the Ability system.