Ali vs Tyson - Tyson chin rating Test (video)

[Phobia]

Well lets first get out the obvious out the way. I am not trying to fight realistic in this video. My entire goal was to test this so called "weak" chin that Tyson has. I have yet to knock him out and this guy online took big time abuse and still did not go down. Almost one time but it was a quick ringer.

The main thing many of us community guys are doing is getting online in party chat and trying to find any and all exploits that are available in the demo. There is several so far.

Ali's chin, combined with his speed is one of them. Reason being is that Ali can stand and exchange with Tyson and hold a very good chance at winning. Then he can also run around the ring and jab Tyson to victory all day long. To the untrained eye you would think, ohhhh people are just boxing effectively. But nope, Ali is a demi-god lol.

Ali's big advantage was speed, range, and peppering opponents all fight long. It was not his ability to take 30 Tyson hooks to the face

So his chin rating needs to be lowered and his hand power need to be lower so there is a bigger difference between "Brawlers" and "Boxers". Otherwise you can expect CAB online to be filled with Ali Molds.

This is a example I feel Tyson's chin is good where it is at.

[Money99]

Good video. Thanks for posting.

The thing is, while playing, it drives me nuts to see Tyson (and Ali) take some serious bombs straight on the chin with little effect. And then suddenly you're floored from a jab or weak little hook.
There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason behind it other than dice rolls in the background.

One thing I'm going to do is take away Ali's one-punch KO attribute.
And I'd love for EA to create a one-punch chin attribute. Tyson was never stopped from one-shot ala Martinez-Williams, Rahman-Lewis. So I think that would be a valid addition to future games.

[Hova57]

has anyone ever koed Ali

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

has anyone ever koed Ali

Not sure how to take this. In game or real? Because there is many factors that go into why he was not KO'd in real life that the game can't factor in.

Basically do you feel Ali should be able to take multiple power hooks/uppercuts from Tyson??

Do you feel Ali in real life could take multiple power hooks/uppercuts from Tyson??

[phant030]

Is it possible the caculation of the overall rating leads to Ali godliness...if they want him to be 93...that won't be able to reduce the ratings b/c then ppl would moan about him being 85 even though he will be represented more accurately.

[Mr5000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

has anyone ever koed Ali

In real life no, unless you count him not coming out for the 11th round of that Larry Holmes fight a knockout. Ken Norton broke his jaw,though.

On this game, I stunned him a couple of times, that as close as I've come.

[Money99]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr5000

In real life no, unless you count him not coming out for the 11th round of that Larry Holmes fight a knockout. Ken Norton broke his jaw,though. On this game, I stunned him a couple of times, that as close as I've come.

True, he was never stopped.
But if not for Angelo Dundee, he would have been KO'd by Henry Cooper.

[Hova57]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

Not sure how to take this. In game or real? Because there is many factors that go into why he was not KO'd in real life that the game can't factor in. Basically do you feel Ali should be able to take multiple power hooks/uppercuts from Tyson?? Do you feel Ali in real life could take multiple power hooks/uppercuts from Tyson??

In the game I was wondering if anyone has I've stunned but thats it. its two different era's I think foreman was prob the closest in power that he felt. As far as holmes go it was the beginning of the end.