Statistics in sliders: All american settings

[Oraeon1224]

I found all American more realistic for CPU play, game speed and fast breaks. Unfortunately without the correct turnovers I am having a bit of trouble getting FGA down to around 80 (NBA average; currently mid 80's). Simulated season also shows too many attempts and points for teams so am currently finishing up with coaching slider edits to try and fix this. Does anyone know what the impact is of increasign playcalling on simulated statistics before I up this by 20 per team to try to slow down the game?

I will post sliders in 2 days once final kinks are out. Until then here are the NBA statistics for all teams for this season so far. I combined all shots <15' because it is too hard in gametrack to tell rim from inside from close (I have already fixed my sliders with in depth close testing to get real FG%) so any adjustments will be to inside shot and layup and dunk to adjust current statistics.

		At RIM (Layup/dunk)			<10 feet Close + Inside				10-15' Close			Rim+Inside+Close			16-23' Med			3pt
Team	FGA	M	A	FG%	M	A	FG%	M	A	FG%	M	A	FG%	M	A	FG%	M	A	FG%	PTS	OPTS	FG%	OFG%	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	FTA	Off	Def	Tot	PIP	Fbreak
Hawks	78.2	11	18	61.3	5.7	12.4	46.3	2.9	6.9	41.8	19.6	37.3	52.5%	10.6	23.6	44.9	6.5	17.3	37.6%	97.7	94.7	47	44.8	23.3	14	6.1	4.4	19.6	23.0	9.5	31.0	40.5	37	15
Celtics	76.6	16.7	24.3	68.7	4	9.2	43.2	3.5	7.6	46.4	24.2	41.1	58.9%	8.9	21.7	41.3	5.3	13.8	38.4%	98.9	91.4	50.2	43.7	24.6	14.7	8	4.4	20.4	22.0	7.7	30.8	38.5	44	13
Bobcats	76.5	15.9	26.1	60.7	4.1	10.6	38.1	2.4	6.1	38.3	22.4	42.8	52.3%	6.9	18.4	37.3	5.4	15.3	35.3%	93.1	97.4	45.1	45	21	17.1	6.9	6.3	20.6	24.8	10.9	30.6	41.4	42	13
Bulls	81	15.5	24.7	62.8	5.6	12	46.3	2.1	5.9	36	23.2	42.6	54.5%	9	22.7	39.6	5.5	15.7	35.0%	99.3	93.9	46.5	43.2	21.7	15.4	7.9	6.1	20.5	25.8	11.5	32.5	44.0	42	13
Cavs	80.6	12.5	20.9	60	5.4	13	41.2	2.6	7.6	33.8	20.5	41.5	49.4%	7.8	20	38.7	6.5	19.1	34.0%	94.1	103.6	43	47.6	21.1	13.6	6.5	3.4	19.3	24.3	9.5	30.1	39.6	38	14
Maverics	77.8	11	16.8	65.7	5.8	12.4	46.9	3.5	8.6	40.6	20.3	37.8	53.7%	9.1	19.6	46.2	7.3	20.4	35.8%	98.1	94	47.3	44.2	23.5	13.8	7.2	4.3	18.6	22.1	8.9	32.5	41.5	33	14
Nuggets	79.5	16.3	27.6	59	4.1	9.7	41.6	1.7	4.6	37.3	22.1	41.9	52.7%	6.7	17.1	39.3	7.9	20.5	38.5%	106.1	104.6	46	46.2	20.6	14.8	6.9	4	21.9	31.5	9.8	31.7	41.5	43	13
Pistons	80.7	13.3	22.1	60.5	4.5	11.5	39.2	3.4	9.3	36.9	21.2	42.9	49.4%	8.8	21.7	40.4	6.2	16.1	38.5%	95.5	100.4	44.9	47.9	20.3	13.5	6.9	4.3	19.9	23.2	10.9	27.7	38.6	36	12
Warriors	85.3	14	22.9	61.4	6.7	15.3	43.9	2.1	5.7	36.4	22.8	43.9	51.9%	7.4	20	37	8.7	21.4	40.7%	102	105.9	45.6	46.8	22.4	15.7	9.3	4.4	23.1	21.1	12.3	28.7	41.1	42	19
Rockets	82.6	13.5	22	61.3	6.9	16.3	42.5	2.4	6.3	37.8	22.8	44.6	51.1%	6.5	16.8	38.9	7.9	21.2	37.3%	104.8	104.6	45.3	46.4	23.8	14.6	7.3	5.3	20.9	27.3	11.1	30.7	41.8	42	15
Pacers	83	11.7	19.6	59.8	5.9	12	48.8	2.5	7.1	35.1	20.1	38.7	51.9%	7.8	21.3	36.5	8.1	23	35.2%	96.4	97.6	43.2	43.3	20.6	15.4	6.9	6.4	22.8	21.2	10.2	33.2	43.4	36	13
Clippers	76.9	15.5	24.2	64.1	6.2	14	44.3	1.7	4.9	35.5	23.4	43.1	54.3%	5.1	14.9	34.4	6.3	18.9	33.3%	97.3	100.7	45.6	45.1	21.7	16.6	6.8	4.8	21.8	27.4	12.2	31.3	43.5	47	13
Lakers	82.8	14.6	22.5	64.7	7.2	15.1	47.8	2.9	7.7	37.5	24.7	45.3	54.5%	6.8	18.3	37.3	7	19.2	36.5%	103.2	97.2	46.4	43.8	22.4	13.9	7.7	5.1	19.9	24.3	12.4	32.5	44.9	46	12
Grizzlies	83.9	15.7	24.4	64.5	7.6	18.1	41.9	2.7	7.3	36.9	26	49.8	52.2%	8.4	21.3	39.2	4.4	12.8	34.4%	100.1	99.7	46.1	46.2	20.2	14.6	9.7	5	21.5	25.1	11.7	28.8	40.5	49	15
Heat	76.7	11	17.2	64.1	5.1	10.6	48.6	2.7	6.8	39.4	18.8	34.6	54.3%	10.9	25.1	43.4	6.5	17	38.2%	101.6	92	47.3	42.3	19.7	13.5	6.8	5.6	20.7	28.7	9.9	33.3	43.1	37	14
Bucks	79.4	12.5	22.6	55.2	4.9	12.3	40	2.7	7.7	34.3	20.1	42.6	47.2%	7.7	20.9	36.7	5.5	15.9	34.6%	91.3	93.1	41.8	44.5	17.6	13.9	6.9	5.1	21.1	26.2	11.4	30.9	42.4	36	10
Twolves	85.9	12.5	20.1	62	7	19.1	36.6	2.9	7.5	38.4	22.4	46.7	48.0%	8.4	20.4	41.4	7.4	18.8	39.4%	102.6	108.5	44.4	46.6	19.9	17.3	7.2	5.7	23.5	24.5	13.6	31.4	45.0	41	13
Nets	78.2	11.4	19.9	57.1	6.9	14.7	46.7	3.1	8	38.3	21.4	42.6	50.2%	7.6	20.6	36.9	5.1	15	34.0%	91.9	98.5	43.4	45.8	18.1	14.8	5.1	4.7	22.5	24.7	10.5	30.7	41.1	38	11
Hornets	77.3	12.3	19.3	63.8	5	12.2	41	3.6	8.9	40.5	20.9	40.4	51.7%	8.9	21.5	41.2	5.4	15.4	35.1%	93.9	92.4	45.4	44.5	20.6	13.8	7.8	4.4	21.3	24.1	10.0	31.7	41.6	38	12
Knicks	83.1	14.5	21.6	67.1	6.9	14.3	48	2.1	5.7	37	23.5	41.6	56.5%	6.3	16.8	37.4	9.3	24.7	37.7%	108.1	106.2	46.9	46.8	21.6	14.8	7.6	6.7	21.2	26.1	10.0	30.9	40.9	44	14
Thunder	80	15.7	24.3	64.5	4.7	11.6	40.1	3.1	8.4	36.9	23.5	44.3	53.0%	7.9	20.4	38.8	5	15.3	32.7%	103.1	101.2	45.4	46.7	19.6	14	8.6	5.6	21.8	30.7	10.7	30.9	41.7	43	16
Magic	77.3	13.1	19.6	66.9	5.5	12.4	44.7	2.7	6.5	41.7	21.3	38.5	55.3%	5.8	14.2	40.6	9.1	24.6	37.0%	98.9	93.4	46.9	43.9	19.9	15.4	6.4	4.4	20.4	24.7	10.0	32.4	42.4	38	11
76ers	81	13.8	21.2	65	5.6	12.3	45.3	4	10.6	37.6	23.4	44.1	53.1%	8.2	21.8	37.7	5.2	15.1	34.4%	96.9	97.4	45.3	44.5	21.5	13.3	7	4.2	20.7	24.2	10.5	31.4	41.8	40	17
Suns	82.3	14.2	20.9	68	5.2	11.9	43.3	3.3	7.6	43.5	22.7	40.4	56.2%	7.9	19	41.4	8.5	22.9	37.1%	105.8	108.5	47.5	48.5	23	14.4	6.7	3.8	21.3	25.8	10.3	28.7	39.0	41	15
Tblazers	81.7	14	22.4	62.5	5.8	13.3	43.6	2.8	7.9	35.2	22.6	43.6	51.8%	7.5	20.3	36.8	5.9	17.8	33.1%	95.2	94.5	44	46	21.3	13.5	8.3	4.8	20.8	22.3	13.3	27.4	40.7	41	11
Kings	84	14.2	21.7	65.3	5.8	15.4	37.7	2.6	7.9	33.1	22.6	45	50.2%	8.3	22.5	36.8	5.6	16.5	33.9%	95.4	101.3	43.4	47	19	15.3	6.8	5.2	23.2	23.9	13.0	29.5	42.6	44	15
Spurs	82.1	14.4	22.6	63.9	6.2	13.8	45	3.1	7.6	41	23.7	44	53.9%	6.3	16.1	38.9	8.7	22	39.5%	105.3	97.6	47.1	45.8	23.2	13.6	8.3	5	18.6	24.6	10.7	32.1	42.8	42	16
Raptors	82.7	15.1	24.9	60.9	6.5	13.6	47.9	3.4	7.6	44.9	25	46.1	54.2%	8.4	20.9	40.2	5.1	15.7	32.5%	100.6	105.1	46.6	49.2	21.6	15.9	7.4	3.7	22.1	24.3	12.0	28.7	40.6	45	20
Jazz	79.2	14.8	23.2	63.7	5.4	12.9	41.7	2.9	7.5	38.1	23.1	43.6	53.0%	8.1	19.7	41.4	5.5	15.9	34.6%	99.6	97.7	46.4	44.1	23.6	13.6	7.5	6.1	23	26.5	10.1	29.0	39.1	43	14
Wizards	82.4	12.6	20.4	61.6	5.3	12.2	43.7	2.7	7.9	34.2	20.6	40.5	50.9%	9.9	25.5	39.1	5.5	16.4	33.5%	95.5	101.6	43.7	47	20.3	15.8	8.6	6.1	23.4	23.7	11.8	28.0	39.8	38	16

Sliders 1/31/11
All star
12 min Quarters
Gamespeed 50
Human/CPU
Inside: 40/40
Close: 47/42
Mid 47/49
3pt 49/50
Layup 54/38
Dunk 50/50
DIT 40/40
Pass acc 47/38
Alleyoop 50/50
Contact 50/40

Drive contact 100
Inside contact 100
Help D 75/75 (with better ball handling looks more like real NBA)
Steal 72/40

Strength 60/50 (seems to help boxing out)
Quickness 70/50 (test for fastbreak; human has none)
Vert 50/50
Ballhandling 60/53
Hands 35/35 (leads to tips on rebounds and more TO on passes)
On ball 60/40
Block 68/65
OREB 100/100
DREB 0/0
Clutch 20/20
Fatigue 48/48
Inj Freq 51/51

Inside 50/50
Close 50/50
Mid 37/37
3pt 50/50
Attack 65/65
Post man 80/80
Dunk 0/0
Commit Foul 100/100
Play passing lane 65/35
On ball steal 65/65
Contest shot 50/50

Over the back 100/100
Charge 100/100
Block 50/50
Reach 75/75
Shooting foul 68/63
Loose 100/100

Coaching profiles: Fixes OREB and FGA per game by teams

TEAM	FGA	PTS	SIM PTS	OREB	FTA	Off tempo	Fast break	Crash board	Run plays	nOff tempo	nFast break	nCrash board	nRun plays	ORR	DRR
76ers	81	96.9	94.0	10.5	24.2	43	40	57	40	50	72	69	91	24.5	74.81
Bobcats	76.5	93.1	93.9	10.9	24.8	35	30	51	60	23	65	82	92	27.04	76.29
Bucks	79.4	91.3	100.0	11.4	26.2	44	40	50	40	14	65	77	70	25.94	76.3
Bulls	81	99.3	99.2	11.5	25.8	60	40	40	40	55	71	88	70	27.96	74.87
Cavs	80.6	94.1	95.8	9.5	24.3	38	35	43	60	38	65	60	70	22.73	76.09
Celtics	76.6	98.9	104.4	7.7	22.0	43	45	33	25	23	68	55	90	21.42	74.94
Clippers	76.9	97.3	95.5	12.2	27.4	53	40	52	20	53	73	96	95	30.4	74.73
Grizzlies	83.9	100.1	99.0	11.7	25.1	56	55	78	50	60	88	87	70	27.78	72.08
Hawks	78.2	97.7	103.0	9.5	23.0	33	45	60	45	23	74	65	70	23.5	74.54
Heat	76.7	101.6	103.0	9.9	28.7	30	67	25	45	20	68	70	95	24.86	75.39
Hornets	77.3	93.9	96.9	10.0	24.1	50	45	43	60	20	60	74	90	25.34	77.19
Jazz	79.2	99.6	101.0	10.1	26.5	58	55	53	20	45	93	78	90	26.06	70.83
Kings	84	95.4	97.9	13.0	23.9	59	50	58	20	59	79	93	80	29.72	73.45
Knicks	83.1	108.1	98.8	10.0	26.1	59	55	36	10	64	92	65	85	23.82	71.27
Lakers	82.8	103.2	103.2	12.4	24.3	51	50	57	15	51	80	95	75	29.85	73
Magic	77.3	98.9	97.5	10.0	24.7	47	52	42	20	45	60	73	85	25.23	77.28
Maverics	77.8	98.1	99.3	8.9	22.1	49	50	40	20	37	75	60	80	22.46	74.46
Nets	78.2	91.9	92.3	10.5	24.7	41	25	44	45	37	70	74	75	25.35	75
Nuggets	79.5	106.1	106.7	9.8	31.5	64	75	49	15	55	76	65	90	23.56	73.86
Pacers	83	96.4	102.0	10.2	21.2	79	60	27	35	50	70	67	70	24.14	75.15
Pistons	80.7	95.5	91.3	10.9	23.2	23	22	72	60	40	90	76	70	25.9	71.18
Raptors	82.7	100.6	94.1	12.0	24.3	53	60	42	40	55	85	90	80	28.43	72.45
Rockets	82.6	104.8	102.2	11.1	27.3	59	55	54	40	55	82	80	80	26.63	72.92
Spurs	82.1	105.3	102.2	10.7	24.6	43	45	53	55	50	72	75	85	25.57	74.83
Suns	82.3	105.8	101.1	10.3	25.8	68	80	57	10	60	98	68	80	24.24	70.34
Tblazers	81.7	95.2	94.0	13.3	22.3	17	28	60	30	50	84	100	75	30.71	72.71
Thunder	80	103.1	98.6	10.7	30.7	53	50	63	55	55	77	85	75	27.23	73.73
Twolves	85.9	102.6	97.5	13.6	24.5	73	50	52	45	60	78	98	80	30.53	73.62
Warriors	85.3	102	100.7	12.3	21.1	85	80	30	30	60	100	86	80	27.37	68.23
Wizards	82.4	95.5	94.2	11.8	23.7	44	35	57	50	44	95	84	70	27.15	70.51
Crash board = Higher increases CPU OREB, allows human fast breaks; arranged by Offensive rebounding rate (i.e. how good a team is at getting the OREB out of all possible OREB) Fast break = Higher increases human OREB but not much impact on FGA for CPU, oriented by Defensive rebounding rate (i.e. how good team is at stopping OREB from opposing team)
Offensive tempo = Set by need to decrease average of 7 FGA per game in real plays balanced by simulation PPG and FGA per team, balanced by run plays; Cap 65
Run plays = No real statistics used. Tried to balance FGA by new offensive tempo settings for simulation, may need tweaking

[lord meth]

Good research bro

[wrestlinggod1]

All american?

[Oraeon1224]

Should say Allstar:

Just finished testing impact of play calling on FGA. For ~ every 6.25 change in the coaching slider to run play there is a 1 change to FGA.

For example:
I was getting about 87 FGA per game which was too many. By increasing coaching sliders run plays for all teams by 44 I would reduce the FGA to 80 which is the NBA average.

Before I make any decisions I am going to check what impact the Offensive tempo slider has since the simulated stats are effected by this and currently this needs to be decreased slightly.

As an aside does anyone know how much a 10pt change in Offensive tempo changes the simulated FGA and points per game?

[Oraeon1224]

Testing of coaching offensive tempo slider:

There is a 1 change in FGA for every 4.17 change in the slider

Example:
Averaging 87 FGA (real NBA 80) for 7 too many attempts. So I would have to decrease the offensive tempo slider by 29 points to correct this error.

Though these sliders may interact it might be best to use a combination to fix the issue (i.e. decrease offensive tempo by 13 to reduce FGA by 3 then correct the remaining 4 by changing Call play by 25). I plan on testing Offensive tempo effects on simulated statistics to see how much change can be made and still have realistic statitistics for points per game.

[Oraeon1224]

Incidentally there is no way to change coaching sliders within association except by changing sides during a game (please fix this 2K). Also unfortunately even if you change the sliders manually by changing sides they don't save on exiting the game.

[Oraeon1224]

Offensive tempo slider testing done:

1 point change in PPG for every 10 point change in the slider (i.e. if you want to decrease PPG in simulation by 2PPG for a team you would need to decrease the slider by 20. This would also have a impact of decreasing FGA in game engine of 4 FGA. What is really bizaar about this slider is that it changes PPG and in game FGA but has no impact on simulated FGA which are still rediculously high (92 per game).

[greenieblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Oraeon1224

Incidentally there is no way to change coaching sliders within association except by changing sides during a game (please fix this 2K). Also unfortunately even if you change the sliders manually by changing sides they don't save on exiting the game.

No, you can. Go to:

Main Assoc Menu>

General Manager>

Resign Position.

If you manually scout, send your scouts back out when you return to your team.