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Old 12-30-2010, 07:56 PM   #1
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brutal learning curve

is it just me or does this game have a brutal learning curve? i'll start by stating that i spent the past 2 years playing ea basketball games, especially ncaa 10. in 2k11, i'm having a real tough time winning on pro difficulty level with default sliders.
post moves are nonexistent for me, i'm turning the ball over A LOT with errant passes, i can't stay in front of a guy while defending, etc....
the game is awesome when it comes to the customization options, depth of association mode, realistic game presentation, etc...
i just plain suck at it. i really want to get into it and have some fun because it seems like a great game, but i can't seem to get the hang of it. i think i got spoiled by the instant motion offense in ncaa 10 (by tapping L1) and now i'm lost having to call plays in 2k11. is there a way to simplify play calling and execution?
also, i'm having trouble controlling my players. they feel very "floaty" to me.
any suggestions for getting better? keep in mind i play exclusively offline association mode.
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:58 PM   #2
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Turn on auto playcalling.

Go to the post move practice and get all the moves down.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:45 PM   #3
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is it just me or does this game have a brutal learning curve?

...post moves are nonexistent for me...

...i'm turning the ball over A LOT with errant passes...

...i can't stay in front of a guy while defending...

...i think i got spoiled by the instant motion offense in ncaa 10 (by tapping L1) and now i'm lost having to call plays in 2k11...

...also, i'm having trouble controlling my players. they feel very "floaty" to me...

...any suggestions for getting better? keep in mind i play exclusively offline association mode.
1. No it's not just you, the learning curve is steep.

2. Go into practice mode and practice the post moves. You really don't need to become an expert in post moves to become efficient down low, so just get a few of the moves down to start out with, then expand your game later on.

3. You have to be careful when you pass, and not make risky passes.

4. Use the intense D (or whatever it's called... L2 button) to counter any moves by the offensive player. Play the angles. Be aware of spacing.

5. Realize the NBA is a lot different from College: much more isolation and one on ones. Plays also develop and execute a lot faster, so it's usually just a pass or two to get the ball in your scorer's hands, and then up with the shot. It helps to know who your scorers are and where they can score from.

6. The "floatiness" can be controlled by moving with less exaggerated movements on the stick. In other words push the stick only slightly off center instead of all the way, and get a feel for the difference between the two.

7. Overall, don't try to absorb it all at once. Start off learning the basic things first, playing entire games only using certain things (only jump hooks in the post, only iso cross moves, etc.) until they become second nature, then bite off another little bit to add to your repertoire. The curve is steep, but the rewards are great. I still remember the first alley oop I threw in a half court set... Both Kevin Harlan and Clark Kellogg simultaneously went "Oooooooohooohoo!"
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Turn on auto playcalling.

Go to the post move practice and get all the moves down.
auto playcalling on offense and defense really helped me out big time.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:28 PM   #5
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Its much more difficult than EA games. Its happened to the majority of the people I know too. Switching from the arcade style of EA games to 2k's sim style is alittle irritating because you feel like things that were so easy to do on EA games will get stopped a lot now. The errand passes defenitely decrease as you keep playing the game. You learn what you can and cannot do and you definitely think twice about what passes you make. Using the direct pass button is extremely helpful too. Much less turnovers and after a while it just becomes second nature to hit it before a pass.
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The errand passes defenitely decrease as you keep playing the game. You learn what you can and cannot do and you definitely think twice about what passes you make. Using the direct pass button is extremely helpful too. Much less turnovers and after a while it just becomes second nature to hit it before a pass.
This! I have maybe 100 games under my belt and am just now able to play at a competent level. I will say, the game just gets better the more I learn and the better I get. I'm addicted to this game.

Know your team and the team who you are playing against! Learn to play D and don't play man all the time.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:02 PM   #7
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Yea you have to know how good the team is that you're playing against. The lakers and Celtics are ridiculous at contesting jumpshots and defending the pick and roll.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:38 PM   #8
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Yeah man, it is tough. But once you get the hang of it, you'll be addicted.
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