4-2-5 Defense

[packabacka19]

Has anyone tried this? Anyone able to give a run-down on its concepts?

It would be much appreciated.

[Homerunhittas]

4-2-5 is can be a pressure defense just like the 4-4 but it's thought to be a defense designed to stop spread teams and is a base Nickel D dependent heavily on the play of the 2 down safeties

base Cover 3 and 1 are perfect for this as Cover 2 and 4 require real good speed out of the down safety dropping deep as that of a CB as he has further to go

this defense is great in disguising zone or man especially useful vs twins formations designed to reveal the coverage from the play's onset

also this defense is perfectly setup for 2 WRs on both sides as the down safeties can act as CBs in man coverage without having to sub in 2 CBs for 2 LBs because of athleticism/speed/coverage abilities

the 2 down safeties need to be physical enough for the run while the back FS is preferred to be more of a coverage FS and safety last saving effort valve than a physical hard hitting FS

4-2-5 although with 8 men close to the action really only has 6 in the box who must be strong enough to handle the inside running game as the 2 down safeties are wider than 4-4 OLBs due to passing concerns with slot WRs or flats in passing game as 4-2-5 is primarily a pass defense that's used as teams' base defenses because of athletic, physical safeties and the need to defend the pass still at the same time

[Icefist]

The 4-2-5 is definitely my favorite defense. If you have the right personnel, you will shut down the pass and the run nearly every play. Your main play should be cover 3, but you have a lot of other great plays like c-gap blitzes, a-gap blitzes, zone blitzes, and a max coverage zone. The personnel also allows you to blitz one man on zones, such as crash 2, a cover two with a LB/Safety blitzing. As far as formations go, the 4-2-5 playbook has the same three variants as the 4-3 (Normal, Over, Under) as well as a 4-2-5 Bear that stacks the line. I believe the playbook also has the default 4-4 and Nickle 3-3-5, but I can't remember right now for sure. You really only need the 4-2-5 sets, Dime/Quarter for 5-wide, and Goalline though. You could even use 4-2-5 against 5 wide, but I would suggest going to Dime 3-2-6. To summarize, just use it and see if you like it.

[jdrhammer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Icefist

The 4-2-5 is definitely my favorite defense. If you have the right personnel, you will shut down the pass and the run nearly every play. Your main play should be cover 3, but you have a lot of other great plays like c-gap blitzes, a-gap blitzes, zone blitzes, and a max coverage zone. The personnel also allows you to blitz one man on zones, such as crash 2, a cover two with a LB/Safety blitzing. As far as formations go, the 4-2-5 playbook has the same three variants as the 4-3 (Normal, Over, Under) as well as a 4-2-5 Bear that stacks the line. I believe the playbook also has the default 4-4 and Nickle 3-3-5, but I can't remember right now for sure. You really only need the 4-2-5 sets, Dime/Quarter for 5-wide, and Goalline though. You could even use 4-2-5 against 5 wide, but I would suggest going to Dime 3-2-6. To summarize, just use it and see if you like it.

425 is cheese. AI cant block it. Listen to what you just said. It shuts down the pass and the run almost every time.

[knighthawksfan]

I love this defense again, they have mad it better than last year game. I use it in my online dynasty and ranked matches when I play bro. This defense is not cheese because the cpu will still find a way around it. No matter what on heisman. They don't play around at all on heisman

[Icefist]

Quote: Originally Posted by jdrhammer

425 is cheese. AI cant block it. Listen to what you just said. It shuts down the pass and the run almost every time.

Listen to what you just said. The AI can't block it, and it is cheese. What type of defense can the AI block? You can set up an unblockable blitz from any formation in the game. The AI has a psychic ability to know exactly what play I am running, and me using a certain defense is cheese? Me running 4-2-5 cover 3 isn't cheese. If I set up nanos from it, which I don't do, it would be cheese. But as I said earlier, you can nano from any formation in the game, so I am going to say that the 4-3 is cheese now.

[packabacka19]

Thanks a lot guys.

You said it can be deadly with "the right personnel". What's the right personnel?

[Roggie]

Quote: Originally Posted by Icefist

Listen to what you just said. The AI can't block it, and it is cheese. What type of defense can the AI block? You can set up an unblockable blitz from any formation in the game. The AI has a psychic ability to know exactly what play I am running, and me using a certain defense is cheese? Me running 4-2-5 cover 3 isn't cheese. If I set up nanos from it, which I don't do, it would be cheese. But as I said earlier, you can nano from any formation in the game, so I am going to say that the 4-3 is cheese now.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Next thing you know, he'll be calling Engage Eight cheese because it can put so much pressure on a QB and he doesn't have 5 seconds to sit in the pocket...