new to NFL questions

[clemonte]

I'm new to NFL and got questions.

1)When receivers after a receive, continue running for a TD, is that run yards considered a rush? So in official receiving yards stat, it don't include any runs after receives?

2)Can a WR play as CB as well or it is a rule to have different set of players for off and def?

3)Once a rush is going on, the rusher can't make any pass backwards like rugby?

4)This might sound nasty but if a team is out to injure a QB to improve chances of a win, tacklers can always claim they can't stop their momentum or thinking its a fake pass etc....

[Scarface-93]

Quote: Originally Posted by clemonte

I'm new to NFL and got questions. 1)When receivers after a receive, continue running for a TD, is that run yards considered a rush? So in official receiving yards stat, it don't include any runs after receives? 2)Can a WR play as CB as well or it is a rule to have different set of players for off and def? 3)Once a rush is going on, the rusher can't make any pass backwards like rugby? 4)This might sound nasty but if a team is out to injure a QB to improve chances of a win, tacklers can always claim they can't stop their momentum or thinking its a fake pass etc....

1) No, its not considered as a rush.
These are just the yards after the catch and they are added to the pass yards.
For example: The patriots are on the 50 yard line. Tom Brady throws a pass to Randy Moss. Moss catches it at the 25, so the pass was 25 yards long. If the defense is able to tackle Randy immediatly, it was a 25yard gain, so there are 25 yards added to Tom's passing yards and to Randy's receiving yards. But now, if Randy is able to run another 10 yards until he is brought down, the pass is 35 yards and so there are 35yards added to Tom's passing yards and to Randy's receiving yards. No rushing.
Running yards only count if the ball carrier has the ball and crosses the line of scrimmage.

2)I don't know it exactly, but I think it should be possible that a player can appear on offense and defense, but i wouldn't make any sense, because the cb would have to learn all the play routes and would miss the defensive training. Also, CB and WR positions are more different than you think.

3) yes he can. It's called a Lateral Pass and the carrier is only allowed to pitch the ball backwards, but this is very risky, because the carrier isn't really able to look backwards because he has to look forward. And the potential receiver is sometimes suprised. And if nobody catches the backwards pass and the ball touches the ground, it's considered as a fumble.

4) Yes they can, but if you hit a QB after the threw the ball, its roughing the passer or a late hit and the defense will get a penalty and the offensive gets some free yards. And there are some thing, which are not allowed, like jumping into the legs or so.
I don't know it exactly, but i you tackle the qb and he gets injured, nobody can claim, this was intentional

[splff3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scarface-93

1) No, its not considered as a rush. These are just the yards after the catch and they are added to the pass yards. For example: The patriots are on the 50 yard line. Tom Brady throws a pass to Randy Moss. Moss catches it at the 25, so the pass was 25 yards long. If the defense is able to tackle Randy immediatly, it was a 25yard gain, so there are 25 yards added to Tom's passing yards and to Randy's receiving yards. But now, if Randy is able to run another 10 yards until he is brought down, the pass is 35 yards and so there are 35yards added to Tom's passing yards and to Randy's receiving yards. No rushing. Running yards only count if the ball carrier has the ball and crosses the line of scrimmage. 2)I don't know it exactly, but I think it should be possible that a player can appear on offense and defense, but i wouldn't make any sense, because the cb would have to learn all the play routes and would miss the defensive training. Also, CB and WR positions are more different than you think. 3) yes he can. It's called a Lateral Pass and the carrier is only allowed to pitch the ball backwards, but this is very risky, because the carrier isn't really able to look backwards because he has to look forward. And the potential receiver is sometimes suprised. And if nobody catches the backwards pass and the ball touches the ground, it's considered as a fumble. 4) Yes they can, but if you hit a QB after the threw the ball, its roughing the passer or a late hit and the defense will get a penalty and the offensive gets some free yards. And there are some thing, which are not allowed, like jumping into the legs or so. I don't know it exactly, but i you tackle the qb and he gets injured, nobody can claim, this was intentional

2. Yes you can. Deion Sanders played WR and CB for the Cowboys for a few years. Also, sometimes LB's line up at TE or FB. So yes you can do it.

[sb24]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

2. Yes you can. Deion Sanders played WR and CB for the Cowboys for a few years. Also, sometimes LB's line up at TE or FB. So yes you can do it.

Champ Bailey a CB has a rushing touchdown. Warren Sapp a DT has at least one td reception. Dieon Branch a WR played CB for the pat's when they had injury problems. You can do want you want but you dont want your best defensive player hurt while playing offense or vise versa.

OP as for #4 thats dirty. Period. Players will get fined for bad hits. If you can tell he did it on purpose he may be suspended if not worse. That is not acceptable here at all. If you going to try to hurt him you better get a clean shot on him.

[clemonte]

After watching my very first nfl opener, I've a few more questions.

1)It seems like the passing game gets more yards and quick advancement, so is running really useful? Perhaps only when it is inches from 1st down or you have APetersen?

2) I've watch AP amazing run(the one he said was one of his best), and it seems like he put his hand to push off the face of a defender( I think its call stiff hand), this is allowed? Isn't this a penalty for facemask?

3) Can a defender tackle a receiver the instance there is contact with the ball? Lets say the receiver jumps and only has a hand to the ball but not secured and the def jump in to tackle him in order to knock the ball out of his hands.

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by clemonte

After watching my very first nfl opener, I've a few more questions. 1)It seems like the passing game gets more yards and quick advancement, so is running really useful? Perhaps only when it is inches from 1st down or you have APetersen? 2) I've watch AP amazing run(the one he said was one of his best), and it seems like he put his hand to push off the face of a defender( I think its call stiff hand), this is allowed? Isn't this a penalty for facemask? 3) Can a defender tackle a receiver the instance there is contact with the ball? Lets say the receiver jumps and only has a hand to the ball but not secured and the def jump in to tackle him in order to knock the ball out of his hands.

1 - Typically teams will use the running game now to control the clock and effectively play keep-away. The opposing team's offense can't score if it's not on the field, and if your team's running game can consistently pick up four or more yards at a time, you're going to hold the ball for a while and use up a lot of clock.

2 - I think that the rule is offensive players can place their hands on a defender's facemask as long as they don't grasp onto the facemask. Grabbing the facemask is a penalty.

3 - Hitting the receiver after someone has made contact with an airborne attempted pass is perfectly legal. It doesn't have to be a receiver who makes contact either; see the crazy ending of the Broncos - Bengals game for a great example of this; Broncos QB Kyle Orton throws a pass to WR Brandon Marshall, but Bengals CB Leon Hall tips the pass first. A few Bengals players proceed to tackle Marshall after the ball was tipped (nevermind the fact that a different Broncos WR, Brandon Stokley, ultimately came down with the pass and scored).

[sb24]

Quote: Originally Posted by clemonte

After watching my very first nfl opener, I've a few more questions. 1)It seems like the passing game gets more yards and quick advancement, so is running really useful? Perhaps only when it is inches from 1st down or you have APetersen? 2) I've watch AP amazing run(the one he said was one of his best), and it seems like he put his hand to push off the face of a defender( I think its call stiff hand), this is allowed? Isn't this a penalty for facemask? 3) Can a defender tackle a receiver the instance there is contact with the ball? Lets say the receiver jumps and only has a hand to the ball but not secured and the def jump in to tackle him in order to knock the ball out of his hands.

1) If all you do is pass the defense will stop you. Running the ball wears down the defense. Passing has a MUCH greater risk of something going wrong. There are many other indepth reasons why passing isnt always the best option. So no the run is used for many reasons.

2) Its called a stiff arm. Yes its allowed as long as the rb doesnt grab the mask and twist or anything like that. I dont know the exact rule but it is legal.

3) Yes as soon as the ball touches anyone, you can hit the receiver.