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Old 08-25-2009, 06:32 AM   #1
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Tackle stats...

I am playing a franchise with Seattle, and through four games my tackling stats look like this:

Brandon Mebane

18 solo tackles, 8 AST, 2 sacks

Lofa Tatupu

15 solo tackles, 11 AST

Patrick Kerney

12 solo tackles, 8 AST, 2 sacks

Aaron Curry

11 solo tackles, 17 AST, 1 sack, 1 INT

Leroy Hill

10 solo tackles, 12 AST

This is from top to bottom... So as it stands, my high tackler will end up with around 70 tackles. As it is, and if it continues on the pace it's on, I'll have some of my better defensive players with 50-60 tackles a piece and probably close to that many assisted tackles as well.

A guy like Aaron Curry is going to make a lot of tackles in this league and in this game, I find it nearly impossible to get a lot with him. My high game was Brandon Mebane with 7 tackles. Other players in the league, like Bart Scott and Jon Beason, are averaging 12-14 tackles per game. Looking at the league leaders, there's a big grip of guys who will end up with over 100, but as it is now, I won't have a guy who will sniff close to that.

I am not a complete stat junkie, but I've read in other posts how guys regress (like Patrick Willis) because the tackling numbers are so low, and I just don't want that to happen with my guys (especially a guy like Aaron Curry, who will only get better).

Eh, I think I liked the old tackling/stats better. It's too damn hard to get solo tackles in this game.

Any pointers/advice? This is kind of a big bummer for me.

Hopefully a patch addresses this if there's no way to make it more realistic.
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Re: Tackle stats...

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I am playing a franchise with Seattle, and through four games my tackling stats look like this:

Brandon Mebane

18 solo tackles, 8 AST, 2 sacks

Lofa Tatupu

15 solo tackles, 11 AST

Patrick Kerney

12 solo tackles, 8 AST, 2 sacks

Aaron Curry

11 solo tackles, 17 AST, 1 sack, 1 INT

Leroy Hill

10 solo tackles, 12 AST

This is from top to bottom... So as it stands, my high tackler will end up with around 70 tackles. As it is, and if it continues on the pace it's on, I'll have some of my better defensive players with 50-60 tackles a piece and probably close to that many assisted tackles as well.

A guy like Aaron Curry is going to make a lot of tackles in this league and in this game, I find it nearly impossible to get a lot with him. My high game was Brandon Mebane with 7 tackles. Other players in the league, like Bart Scott and Jon Beason, are averaging 12-14 tackles per game. Looking at the league leaders, there's a big grip of guys who will end up with over 100, but as it is now, I won't have a guy who will sniff close to that.

I am not a complete stat junkie, but I've read in other posts how guys regress (like Patrick Willis) because the tackling numbers are so low, and I just don't want that to happen with my guys (especially a guy like Aaron Curry, who will only get better).

Eh, I think I liked the old tackling/stats better. It's too damn hard to get solo tackles in this game.

Any pointers/advice? This is kind of a big bummer for me.

Hopefully a patch addresses this if there's no way to make it more realistic.
just look around...or at my posts as i have an extensive one with screenshots about this. basically, tackling is completely broken
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What's your quarter length?
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What's your quarter length?
15, with a 15 second runoff on the accelerated clock.

Played a game this morning and Curry had 3 tackles with 6 assists. The CPU ran 78 plays.

Broken...
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I am playing a franchise with Seattle, and through four games my tackling stats look like this:

Brandon Mebane

18 solo tackles, 8 AST, 2 sacks

Lofa Tatupu

15 solo tackles, 11 AST

Patrick Kerney

12 solo tackles, 8 AST, 2 sacks

Aaron Curry

11 solo tackles, 17 AST, 1 sack, 1 INT

Leroy Hill

10 solo tackles, 12 AST

This is from top to bottom... So as it stands, my high tackler will end up with around 70 tackles. As it is, and if it continues on the pace it's on, I'll have some of my better defensive players with 50-60 tackles a piece and probably close to that many assisted tackles as well.

A guy like Aaron Curry is going to make a lot of tackles in this league and in this game, I find it nearly impossible to get a lot with him. My high game was Brandon Mebane with 7 tackles. Other players in the league, like Bart Scott and Jon Beason, are averaging 12-14 tackles per game. Looking at the league leaders, there's a big grip of guys who will end up with over 100, but as it is now, I won't have a guy who will sniff close to that.

I am not a complete stat junkie, but I've read in other posts how guys regress (like Patrick Willis) because the tackling numbers are so low, and I just don't want that to happen with my guys (especially a guy like Aaron Curry, who will only get better).

Eh, I think I liked the old tackling/stats better. It's too damn hard to get solo tackles in this game.

Any pointers/advice? This is kind of a big bummer for me.

Hopefully a patch addresses this if there's no way to make it more realistic.
Tackle stats have always been low when playing the game but I think the problem is that the tackle assists are not being added to the overall total tackles

but im not 100% sure just guessing
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Tackle stats have always been low when playing the game but I think the problem is that the tackle assists are not being added to the overall total tackles

but im not 100% sure just guessing
yup. bingo.
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:59 PM   #7
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Re: Tackle stats...

There's another issue in that the tackle stats for the rest of the league are overblown. Basically, the sim numbers are tuned to resemble real NFL tackle stats, except for the fact that tackles aren't a real NFL stat.

I forget where it is, but somewhere there's an article talking about the fact that tackle statistics in the NFL are a joke because each team keeps their own. There are some absurd statistical anomalies, for example some teams having more than 1.5x as many "tackles" as they have total defensive plays.

The problem is that the in-game engine which does YOUR stats records tackles in a truthful manner, while the sim engine uses the absurd real-life NFL tackle stats as a guide.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:03 PM   #8
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Here's what I was talking about:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....141e71c8.html

"The Indianapolis staff awarded 891 "solo" tackles in those 781 plays. Figure that one out."

Also:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
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