How does this guy hit the mound with no confidence?

[BigWilly]

So, we've talked off an on about pitcher's confidence possibly (probably) being overdone. Well here's another example that sticks out as a little bizarre.

I bring in Heilman (Cubs middle relief) into a game in to start the 7th inning. Obviously, no base runners. The dude has an ERA of 2.19 and opponents are hitting about .235 against him. Yet he hits the mound with so little confidence he doesn't have the release point/line on the pitching meter. A few weeks back, I had Zambrano take to the mound...same thing...no confidence on his 1st pitch of the game. This from a guy who had an ERA in the low 3.00's. Whereas Marshall, who had an ERA in the 5.00's for me never hit the mound that I recall with no confidence.

Curious how confidence sometimes manifests in this game.

[Azamien]

How did he pitch in his previous appearance? Confidence is a short-term thing, and carries over from one appearance to the next. A guy can have great season numbers, but if he got shelled in his last appearance he'll have low confidence.

It also seems like some guys regain confidence faster than others, but if that is the case, I don't know what attribute causes it.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigWilly

So, we've talked off an on about pitcher's confidence possibly (probably) being overdone. Well here's another example that sticks out as a little bizarre. I bring in Heilman (Cubs middle relief) into a game in to start the 7th inning. Obviously, no base runners. The dude has an ERA of 2.19 and opponents are hitting about .235 against him. Yet he hits the mound with so little confidence he doesn't have the release point/line on the pitching meter. A few weeks back, I had Zambrano take to the mound...same thing...no confidence on his 1st pitch of the game. This from a guy who had an ERA in the low 3.00's. Whereas Marshall, who had an ERA in the 5.00's for me never hit the mound that I recall with no confidence. Curious how confidence sometimes manifests in this game.

Hey BW...
Take if from a N.Y.'er....it's AARON HEILMANN....he has no confidence.
(c'mon...you knew it was comin')

M.K.
Knight165

[koebsual]

I think maybe there should be a composure/poise type attribute maybe for big time players ala-reggie jackson-jeter-kirk gibson etc....I find it very unrealistic when MO(Rivera) gets rattled after one hit or even a hr! He is never/rarely shook up over a hit/hr. His bar should be full yellow every time he enters! And it should take a couple walk off hrs in a row during a season to get to him in the slightest! All in all I like the confidence affecting every normal player, but the greats almost never get effected atleast they don't show it. Guy's like Papplebon/Rivera those guys come back night after night and still effective even after some horrible(to them) outings in a row. No biggie but the Mariano bar disapearing bothers me the most I guess, seems laughable that he would be so shook up after giving up a 2 out hit in the ninth leading by 2 runs?

[moemoe24]

I have this happen several times in my season. I've also seen the opposite where my guy comes to the mound with the extra confidence. I think a lot of it has to do with the previous outing.

[deucepoppi17]

Can u see a pitchers confidence before u put him in the game?

[countryboy]

its a combination of how their season's going plus their previous outings. I've had guys come in with no confidence and guys come in with extreme confidence. Nice touch in my opinion.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

its a combination of how their season's going plus their previous outings. I've had guys come in with no confidence and guys come in with extreme confidence. Nice touch in my opinion.

When I first started playing this series after being a long time HH'er I didn't know what to think of this feature esp. with so many people not liking it. What I found is it is a great feature....could not imagine not playing with it on!