Passing velocity - abilities?

[noarmsduck]

Are there any abilities in this game that affect the actual speed of passes? I'm not talking about QB release, I'm talking about the speed of the ball in the air. I've been playing Madden for a few months and it's jarring coming back to CFB and even my current QB in dynasty with 96 THP and even bullet passes seem like they just hang in the air.

At first I figured it was just a difference in the two games. While I still think this is partly the case, the reason I think there might be an ability that affects this is because I loaded up CUT and in that I have a 93 overall Klubnik and his passes seem significantly faster, though admittedly not as fast as I'm used to in Madden. Not sure how abilities work in that mode and I've only played a few solo challenges and never "put anything on" that card.

Anyway, are there any physical abilities for QBs I should be looking out for when scouting them that would make a difference for me with this?

[illwill10]

As far as Pass Velocity, I don't think there's any abilities for it. I think maybe it has to do whether a QB has Throws Tight Spiral. THP does affect Velocity some, but it's more for throw distance.



I was thinking about that. It would be nice to have an ability for faster Velocity. I usually have to change to a fast release. When I did play Madden, I noticed I threw way fewer INTs in Madden than in CFB.

[sherrane]

In earlier versions the velocity of the passes are influenced by the QB's Strength rating. A 96 Throw Power with a 40 Strength would give you a QB who could throw deep, but the intermediate throws seem to hang. A !B strength around 90 with 96 Throw Power would give you a John Elway or Brett Favre. It seems to have some effect in 25, but not quite as much. And I could be wrong and only think the QB has more velocity, so please feel free to tell me I'm wrong if I am.

[illwill10]

Quote: Originally Posted by sherrane

In earlier versions the velocity of the passes are influenced by the QB's Strength rating. A 96 Throw Power with a 40 Strength would give you a QB who could throw deep, but the intermediate throws seem to hang. A !B strength around 90 with 96 Throw Power would give you a John Elway or Brett Favre. It seems to have some effect in 25, but not quite as much. And I could be wrong and only think the QB has more velocity, so please feel free to tell me I'm wrong if I am.

That's something that probably can be tested in dynasty in the free practice. i guess test and compare your QB with 40 strength vs 90 strength and see if it makes a difference on similar throws

[noarmsduck]

Quote: Originally Posted by sherrane

In earlier versions the velocity of the passes are influenced by the QB's Strength rating. A 96 Throw Power with a 40 Strength would give you a QB who could throw deep, but the intermediate throws seem to hang. A !B strength around 90 with 96 Throw Power would give you a John Elway or Brett Favre. It seems to have some effect in 25, but not quite as much. And I could be wrong and only think the QB has more velocity, so please feel free to tell me I'm wrong if I am.

Good to know. I notice you mentioned it was like that in "earlier versions" of the game. Do you mean that you haven't played the game on the latest version/haven't tested it, or you know for sure that it doesn't work that way any more? If this actually has an effect I would be very interested. I might have to do some testing now.

Quote: Originally Posted by illwill10

As far as Pass Velocity, I don't think there's any abilities for it. I think maybe it has to do whether a QB has Throws Tight Spiral. THP does affect Velocity some, but it's more for throw distance. I was thinking about that. It would be nice to have an ability for faster Velocity. I usually have to change to a fast release. When I did play Madden, I noticed I threw way fewer INTs in Madden than in CFB.

I *think* the QB in question has tight spiral but I'm not sure, I'm about to load it up to test the strength thing anyways so I'll find out. Do you have any input on the best release to use? From what I've looked at, Over the Top 3, Three Quarters 3, and Lower Three Quarters 2 seem to be the best/fastest ones. I've heard good things about Three Quarters 4 though so I might test that out as well.

EDIT: Looks like you can't see tight spiral on anyone unless you watch them in game, I thought for sure that showed up before. My starter in dynasty only has 61 strength so that could be why it seems weak/slow. I'm about to test it at a higher rating now.

[illwill10]

Quote: Originally Posted by noarmsduck

Good to know. I notice you mentioned it was like that in "earlier versions" of the game. Do you mean that you haven't played the game on the latest version/haven't tested it, or you know for sure that it doesn't work that way any more? If this actually has an effect I would be very interested. I might have to do some testing now. I *think* the QB in question has tight spiral but I'm not sure, I'm about to load it up to test the strength thing anyways so I'll find out. Do you have any input on the best release to use? From what I've looked at, Over the Top 3, Three Quarters 3, and Lower Three Quarters 2 seem to be the best/fastest ones. I've heard good things about Three Quarters 4 though so I might test that out as well. EDIT: Looks like you can't see tight spiral on anyone unless you watch them in game, I thought for sure that showed up before. My starter in dynasty only has 61 strength so that could be why it seems weak/slow. I'm about to test it at a higher rating now.

I think those are the quicker QB releases. I usually don't change the QB release unless it's "My Qb" . But, I usually go with Over the Top 3. You can check to see if a QB has tight spiral if you check the Traits tab in the Roster menu..


Only other thing is that THA still does affect it. If your THA is low enough, you'll throw ducks.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Quote: Originally Posted by illwill10

I think those are the quicker QB releases. I usually don't change the QB release unless it's "My Qb" . But, I usually go with Over the Top 3. You can check to see if a QB has tight spiral if you check the Traits tab in the Roster menu.. Only other thing is that THA still does affect it. If your THA is low enough, you'll throw ducks.

I'd also look at SAC, MAC, DAC, Throw On The Run etc. If your QB has low numbers in those, they'll throw it all over the place different ways.

[noarmsduck]

Quote: Originally Posted by illwill10

I think those are the quicker QB releases. I usually don't change the QB release unless it's "My Qb" . But, I usually go with Over the Top 3. You can check to see if a QB has tight spiral if you check the Traits tab in the Roster menu.. Only other thing is that THA still does affect it. If your THA is low enough, you'll throw ducks.

They removed the tight spiral thing from the traits page. I'm almost 100% sure I remember seeing it there before, but I checked last night on 3 different QBs and it wasn't there.

Anyways, I tested upping the strength and it definitely seemed to make a difference.