Why does Zach Edey have an (84) 3pt rating!?

[Rori Daed]

Just asking... And maybe someone of importance who still lurks at 2k could take notice and fix, lol.

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rori Daed

Just asking... And maybe someone of importance who still lurks at 2k could take notice and fix, lol.

There is no denying. He's been knocking them down all season. They had to boost it

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rori Daed

Just asking... And maybe someone of importance who still lurks at 2k could take notice and fix, lol.

There's nothing to fix. This is by their design. They think 3PT% is the only factor in what makes a good shooter.

Quote: Originally Posted by jeebs9

There is no denying. He's been knocking them down all season. They had to boost it

He was shooting 39% as of January 29th.

The problem is they can't figure out the difference between a low-volume / stand-still / wide-open 3pt shooter, and a movement shooting gunner.

That would require the slightest bit of context. They couldn't just copy & paste 3pt data into a spreadsheet. Mike out there really earning his salary.

[MiracleMet718]

Quote: Originally Posted by Real2KInsider

There's nothing to fix. This is by their design. They think 3PT% is the only factor in what makes a good shooter. He was shooting 39% as of January 29th. The problem is they can't figure out the difference between a low-volume / stand-still / wide-open 3pt shooter, and a movement shooting gunner. That would require the slightest bit of context. They couldn't just copy & paste 3pt data into a spreadsheet. Mike out there really earning his salary.

Isn’t that what tendencies are for?

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by MiracleMet718

Isn’t that what tendencies are for?

This is backwards, results-based thinking.

Edey gets those looks because the defense ignores him out there.

Do you ignore an 84 3pt shooter?



Robinson is shooting only 38% this season. Big difference between shooting 38% on this shot diet...



...versus this shot diet.

Edey ain't KAT, Brook Lopez, Bobby Portis, Naz Reid, Joel Embiid, Lauri Markkanen, players who actually get guarded out there.

Steph Curry is shooting 39% but there's a reason he's still got a 99 3pt.

Klay Thompson is also shooting 39%. The difference between him and Edey ain't Tendencies.

[MiracleMet718]

Quote: Originally Posted by Real2KInsider

This is backwards, results-based thinking. Edey gets those looks because the defense ignores him out there. Do you ignore an 84 3pt shooter? Robinson is shooting only 38% this season. Big difference between shooting 38% on this shot diet... ...versus this shot diet. Edey ain't KAT, Brook Lopez, Bobby Portis, Naz Reid, Joel Embiid, Lauri Markkanen, players who actually get guarded out there. Steph Curry is shooting 39% but there's a reason he's still got a 99 3pt. Klay Thompson is also shooting 39%. The difference between him and Edey ain't Tendencies.

I know why he’s getting open looks in the real NBA. I’m asking if tendencies in 2k contribute to the how often the CPU players will be in those positions (which they should). So if Edey is rated 84 3PT but all of his 3PT tendencies are low, shouldn’t he hit his 39% clip but only shoot maybe 1 a game if not less?

If his volume is low and he’s only taking the outside shots when he’s wide open, then it’s pretty close to his real life percentage. The few times I’ve played the Grizzlies he’s barely been out beyond the paint so it hasn’t been an issue.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by MiracleMet718

I know why he’s getting open looks in the real NBA. I’m asking if tendencies in 2k contribute to the how often the CPU players will be in those positions (which they should).

No. It is a common misconception that maxing out a player's tendency is going to max out their shot attempts. All the tendency is doing is making it more likely that they pull the trigger when in that area of the court. It's just one number in an algorithm that is always running in the background.

It is easy to SAY that is "how the game should work" but that's nowhere close to the reality of how the game is coded (nor is it how players & teams behave IRL).

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So if Edey is rated 84 3PT but all of his 3PT tendencies are low, shouldn’t he hit his 39% clip but only shoot maybe 1 a game if not less?

Even the worst NBA players can shoot a high percentage in an open gym. Dwight Howard was 16-40 (40 3pt%) with the Lakers. Three point percentage is not an indicator of shooter quality. If anything, it is probably the LEAST important factor.

This is hardly an issue with big men. 2K has had Christian Braun and the entire Nuggets team with high 3pt ratings all season. The Nuggets are 4th in 3PT% but 30th in 3PA. They exercise extreme discretion in when they actually shoot threes, BECAUSE they are a poor shooting team.

This is something I broke down last week on Reddit when someone pointed out Aaron Gordon had an 88(!!!) 3pt rating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA2k/comme...3pt_rating_in/

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If his volume is low and he’s only taking the outside shots when he’s wide open, then it’s pretty close to his real life percentage. The few times I’ve played the Grizzlies he’s barely been out beyond the paint so it hasn’t been an issue.

The difference is if you played WITH the Grizzlies you shouldn't be able to turn him into Brook Lopez.

[Real2KInsider]

On the opposite end of the spectrum - This is why P.J. Tucker always has an insanely high Close Shot rating.

2022: 74-143 FG (52 FG%, 86 AST%, 2.6 FGA/36) = 96(!!!) Close Rating in 2K23
2020: 25-53 FG (47 FG%, 88 AST%, 0.8 FGA/36) = 94 Close Rating in 2K21

(^All they're doing is doubling the FG%. If it exceeds 50% they just reduce to 96-97 so nobody has the "dreaded" 98/99)

Tucker doesn't shoot a high percentage inside because he's a great scorer. He shoots a high percentage because the handful of shots he DOES take he's completely wide open. They're bunnies.

This is not rocket science. It's a concept they understand at some level because they don't rate Steph, Luka, Klay, Trae, etc by raw percentage. But for the other 99% of the league, 2K isn't willing to look through the context, and never have been.