RNS Option Routes

[RogueHominid]

Hey y’all. I’m wondering if anyone who run the RNS offense successfully in offline dynasty can coach me up on how to read some key concepts in the offense this year.

Long story, short, I’m having a tough time in practice mode getting a sense of which option route receivers will run, which is leading to sacks and picks, and I’m wondering if this is something I can work through with some study or if it’s just a hard offense to run because of how the option routes interact with coverages this year.

I’m also feeling like the outside guys choose the deep route most of the time, which may be how it should be, but I’m waiting a long time for the route to declare because I can’t anticipate well in the offense, and it’s costing me.

Any guidance would be appreciated!

[Orange Krush]

I don’t run the RNS but I do know one option route gets run wrong almost every time. The 4th vertical on a 4 verts play is an option route to run a seam vs 1-high or a bender vs 2-high. When you get a 1-high safety that route is supposed to be a seam but they run a post every time. It’s been this way for as long as I can remember in EA football games.

[ChaseB]

Quote: Originally Posted by RogueHominid

Hey y’all. I’m wondering if anyone who run the RNS offense successfully in offline dynasty can coach me up on how to read some key concepts in the offense this year. Long story, short, I’m having a tough time in practice mode getting a sense of which option route receivers will run, which is leading to sacks and picks, and I’m wondering if this is something I can work through with some study or if it’s just a hard offense to run because of how the option routes interact with coverages this year. I’m also feeling like the outside guys choose the deep route most of the time, which may be how it should be, but I’m waiting a long time for the route to declare because I can’t anticipate well in the offense, and it’s costing me. Any guidance would be appreciated!

They're mostly supposed to be based on the defenses guys are in, but I dunno if awareness of receivers matters, and like mentioned in post above, I don't think they always run the right route regardless. They're just a little spooky to run this year in my limited time using them.

[RogueHominid]

OK, thanks, guys, that kinda confirms what I was already thinking, but I wanted to make sure I wasn’t just too dumb for the offense, lol.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Quote: Originally Posted by blockdownkickout

The run and shoot offense has a lot of history. Since most of you are reading this to play it in a video game(understandable) I won't go through the history. Anywho, the RNS was based on the theory "run where they're not". Meaning the WRs saw coverages and changed their routes based off what they saw. The RNS started with a few simple concepts that could be your entire offense very easily. These plays are most commonly known as: Slide(60 slide), Go(60 Go), Choice(61 Choice), switch routes, and Smash routes. With the correct adjustments and right reads you could literally run one of these plays all game and have success,however it is BETTER to mix them up. Let's get back to the plays. The numbering system refers to the half rollout action that makes the play so successful. 60-half roll to the trips side. 61-half roll to the single WR side. By simply doing this you will begin to notice a higher success rate in passes because of how the defense has to respect your roll( age old defense rule) and it opens up passing lanes. The thing that holds the RNS back in video games is the WRs artificial intelligence isn't always in line to what they need to do to be open. Therefore this is on you!! You must read defense coverages and determine if it is man, three deep, or 2 deep/cover 4. Quick Run through coverage recognition Cover 4/cover 2. Two deep safeties and CBs won't be directly aligned with the WRs. Cover 3. One high safety(easiest read) Man. CBs will be aligned directly over the WR they are covering. Note: defenses can disguise their coverage. Here are your adjustments to the coverage 60 slide v. Cover three/two/4. Run the inside WR on the trips side on a go. Outside WR on trips side on a slant. Leave other WR. I would reveal all my secrets. But that takes away the learning experience. Let me know how this goes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I found this in a "RNS Explained'' thread from about nine years ago. I wonder how much of it is relevant in EA CFB.
*shrug*

Quote: Originally Posted by RogueHominid

OK, thanks, guys, that kinda confirms what I was already thinking, but I wanted to make sure I wasn’t just too dumb for the offense, lol.

[pietasterp]

Looks like not much has changed....LOL

My experience is that the WR rarely runs the obvious/proper option route, as others have stated, making those plays an INT waiting to happen. I basically never run them for that reason.

[DLev4552]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChaseB

They're mostly supposed to be based on the defenses guys are in, but I dunno if awareness of receivers matters, and like mentioned in post above, I don't think they always run the right route regardless. They're just a little spooky to run this year in my limited time using them.

I just wish we knew what the option route keys are for our CPU WRs. We know what they are supposed to be IRL, but it has never been detailed how the game treats to, to my knowledge.

I'm not an RnS guy, but am running VnS in my online dynasty with great success. However, last night in a tight CPU game, I threw a costly 4th quarter interception on Wide Trips - Hitch Mills where the #3 receiver on the Trips side either runs a hitch or an out.

Everything about the defensive alignment (both pre-snap and post-snap) screamed "out route," but sure enough he ran the hitch unexpectedly.
This was at home with a WR with 87 Awareness.

Thankfully I ended up pulling it out 23-17, but it was certainly white-knuckle time after that.

[Haze88]

Quote: Originally Posted by RogueHominid

Hey y’all. I’m wondering if anyone who run the RNS offense successfully in offline dynasty can coach me up on how to read some key concepts in the offense this year. Long story, short, I’m having a tough time in practice mode getting a sense of which option route receivers will run, which is leading to sacks and picks, and I’m wondering if this is something I can work through with some study or if it’s just a hard offense to run because of how the option routes interact with coverages this year. I’m also feeling like the outside guys choose the deep route most of the time, which may be how it should be, but I’m waiting a long time for the route to declare because I can’t anticipate well in the offense, and it’s costing me. Any guidance would be appreciated!

The honest answer is don't run them. EA's option routes have been badly programmed for as long as I can remember since IRL they are either leverage dependent (non-existent EA concept) or based on the post snap movement of the safeties (also ignored due to lack of dynamic AI). From what I can tell they have one option vs a called man play and one option vs a called zone play with no nuance beyond it which poses issues with C2 vs C3 for obvious reasons.