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Old 07-12-2024, 02:49 PM   #1
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Issues we've spotted, what they impact, and how can they be solved.

Yea, it's not even released yet and we have a thread dedicated to issues, or negativity as some would put it.

BEFORE YOU POST IN THIS THREAD, PLEASE READ THE BELOW

This thread's sole purpose is to point out major issues with core parts of the game, to explain what the issue is and what areas of the game it is impacting, and then to also potentially propose realistic solutions to said issues.

This thread's purpose is to not be a safe place for you to come in and shout that EA is bad, they're lazy, X, Y, Z is a total game killer and you're going to cry, etc.

If you come into this thread and want to participate, I ask that you respect every other poster in the thread, you respect EA, and you try to provide feedback that is constructive and can be beneficial towards EA addressing the issues.
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Old 07-12-2024, 02:52 PM   #2
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Dynamic Lighting from play to play or quarter to quarter should be activated. I'm pretty sure it's in the game, but there's a bug just like in recent Maddens.
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The biggest issue we've seen thus far from is by far the sim stats in dynasty mode of the RB's, sack numbers, and defensive TD's.

Be reminded that the sim was based on the beta and not the final product.

The issue could be the new wear and tear system that was put into place. Until we test out the sim stats with the wear and tear system on vs off, we won't know for sure.

This is something that we need not forget and need to monitor going forward into next week.
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Old 07-12-2024, 03:00 PM   #4
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With that out of the way, let me start with what many have likely already guessed.

Blue chip players not getting recruited.

Many people are getting caught up in the fact that KSU signed 5 and 4 star players and are arguing why or why not that is a bad thing. I'm not here to do that. I am here to look at the root of the issue and examine what is going on from what we've seen and what needs to be fixed with it.

The issue that we saw with multiple players NTE recruited was the fact that CPU teams were not pursuing these players. The #2 QB in the nation had Kentucky as the only CPU team going after him. The other 132 CPU controlled teams ignored him. And, after week 1, Kentucky also ignored him. This means all 133 CPU teams were not trying to sign the #2 QB in the entire class.

The #4 C had nobody going after him either. NTE also advanced a few weeks into his dynasty and checked the prospect listing again to look at 4 and 5 star players that nobody was actively recruiting. He said after doing multiple rebuild dynasties with the game already that he found this to be the meta. This means that it was happening in all his dynasties where blue chip recruits were being completely ignored by CPU teams.

That is the main issue that led to him getting top level players to KSU.

What needs to happen is the recruiting logic for CPU teams needs to be adjusted so that all blue chip players are getting hounded by 10+ teams from the start and teams only back off when they are locked out. The teams making the cuts to top 8, 5, and 3 should continue to recruit these players until they're shown the door.

We know this issue is making it too easy to recruit for the user and that's one major advantage, but we also have no idea if this is leading to any roster issues later on in the dynasty. We only saw him looking at recruits he wasn't already locked out of with deal breakers. We have no idea if the recruits that he was locked out were even being recruited.

The recruiting logic must be adjusted to where every blue chip player gets targeted by multiple schools. Even if it leads to over-signing and thus more kids hitting the portal, that's a much more balanced and realistic end result than 4 and 5 star players just being left in the void.
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Sim stats could be attributed to wear and tear on the offensive side of the ball.

For Defense, only thing I could think is the sim engine logic has every team "Playing" as a 3-4 style defense. That's the only thing I can think of that would cause a 100% disappearance of d-line on the sack totals in the video we saw.
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Not the expert just confirmed on reddit that sim stats are fine and it wasn't sorting correctly.
That's huge.

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a dev told me it was glitching up in my video and not sorting properly. So more than 6 people scored a defensive TD for example. Game just didn’t sort through the whole list of players
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Another issue that is not getting enough attention, but it is also something that's been an issue with Madden for a couple of years now is the fact that CPU QB's are throwing bullet passes far too often.

We saw this time and time again in QBJ's video which he said was on Heisman. Like what it does in Madden, it leads to many routes and concepts being run poorly by the CPU consistently. It leads to far more interceptions than the CPU would otherwise be throwing if their passes had variable levels of loft on them. And, overall, it makes the CPU offense noticeably weaker than it should be.

WR's can be open by a good margin on deep and intermediate routes and passes are getting knocked out of the air because they are coming in flat. A WR on a go can have his CB beat by 4 steps and the trajectory is so flat the burned corner can get a hand on it, even picking it off when wildly out of position as we saw in QBJ's video.

WR's running across the middle of the field are technically open, but the CPU lacks the ability to layer the ball, which is something EA said was of high importance this year, so they throw what should be a relatively easy touch pass to complete flat as can be right into the underneath LB. Post routes that split safeties are thrown so low the beat safeties are breaking up the play or even picking it off.

The strange thing is, every so often the CPU will throw a lob or a touch out of the blue showing they have the ability to do so. I don't know if it is a bug in the logic leading to this occurring or if EA by design is limiting certain routes to certain throw types, but it needs to be looked at.

The logic that determines the CPU throw type desperately needs attention so that this issue can be relieved and we can see the CPU play up to its potential.

It is one thing if the CPU on Varsity is doing this as a way to make the game easier on the user without messing with ratings on either side. However, on Heisman, the CPU should have every tool and mechanic at their disposal to challenge the user is an authentic manner. It was said this year the CPU has every single pre-play tool at their disposal just like the user and they'll use them. They need to have every trajectory at their disposal so that CPU teams can play up to their potential.
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Not the expert just confirmed on reddit that sim stats are fine and it wasn't sorting correctly.
That's huge.
If true that would be incredible.
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