Please Help and Old Man with Slider-itus

[johnnydrum]

Hello you lovelys.
53 year old "Old Fart--Off Line Season Mode for 30 years (lol...you know the script "old-- set in ways-- fear change but demand change, then dislike change)" lol

PLEASE HELP ME ON THIS AS I AM GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES (and can not afford another divorce lol)

Spent a month re-editing rosters--now ready to start Season with the Bruins.
Trouble is, I ve gotten myself in such a tizz.

Used AlTito sliders as a base, but no matter what adjustments I made, the game (ALL-Star setting with adjustemnets) resembles more of Wasps buzzing around, rather than the structured game I am seeking.....
Of course, I have now found that I have changed so much stuff----I am in a real quagmire (giggerty)--and suspecting that I may be mis understanding/ misreading some of the sliders....

eg: No matter how much i adjust the passing in my favour, once in the Offensive zone, my pass never hits my wingman, either is picked off (even with Pass Accuray Maxed and CPU interceptions Lowered, or goes back out of the zone?

What am I missing here? (or is it my old mans wonky fingers/angles)

Another issue is the lack of Goals (by CPU and myself)---No matter what I set the Goalies reactions too (either 10 or 90 as some say its reversed)--- its endless 1-1 games.....I have to be missing something here, right?

Hers a list of my current sliders----They may seem odd--but I am happy with the speed, and even with Aggression super low, the CPU still hits me.
Could anyone with a spare 5 minutes take a look and perhaps point out any MASSIVE errors/ misinterprutations that I may be encontering....

(When 2 values are shown, first in CPU , second is HUM)
Bold indicated my BIG changes

Game Settings
Game Style: 4/4 Full Sim*
Rules: NHL
Period Length: 8 minutes*
Difficulty: All-Star*
Away Line Changes: Auto
Away Shot Aim: Manual
Home Line Changes: Auto
Home Shot Aim: Manual

Gameplay Sliders

General
Gameplay Version: Latest

Attribute Effects: 5/10 (Tinkering at 6)
Broken Stick Frequency: 35*
Game Speed: 0
Fatigue Effect: 88
Fatigue Recovery: 38
Injury Occurence: 55

Skating
Back Skating: 75
Hustle Type: Authentic
Puck Carrier Agility: 50
Puck Carrier Skating: 50
Player Acceleration: 27
Skating Speed: 27
Skating Agility: 42 - 46

Shooting
One Timer Accuracy: 45 - 72 (Struggling to get the One Timer from the L/C ala Pastrnak/Ovie?)
Shot Accuracy: 55
Shot Power: 68 (Trying to get shots through the D)
Slap Shot Accuracy: 56
Slap Shot Power: 56

Passing
Manual Passing: OFF
Pass Assist: 88
Min Pass Speed: 36
Max Pass Speed: 50
Saucer Pass Speed: 35
Pass Accuracy: CPU 0* | HUM 98 (stick cant pass in the O-Zone?)
Pass Interceptions: 6 - 90 ( see above)
Pass Reception Ease: 22 - 46
Reception Reaction Time: 50
Puck Control Rating Effect: 70*
Puck Speed Reception Effect: 60*
Pickup Type Effect: 50
Bouncing Puck Receptions: 38 - 44 (So I can get "some" bounces)

Puck Control
Stick In Physics: Stick, Legs And Body
Incidental Contact Puck Loss: Stick, Legs And Body
Incidental Stick Contact Immunity: 10
Puck Control: 14 - 30
Deking Impact: 48
Spin Deke Impact: 60
Skating Impact: 16 - 0

Goalies
Goalie Cover Frequency: 90
Goalie Passing: 45*
Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time: 50
Goalie Save Reaction Time: 26 - 34 (I cant get either the CPU or myself scoring, even with these lowered)
Goalie Deflection Reaction Time: 50
Goalie Screen Effect: 60
Goalie Screen Persistence: 60

Checking
Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier: 10*
Board Effect Puck Carrier: 10*
Hitting Assistance: 50
Stumble Threshold: 80
Fall And Stumble Fall Ease: 80 (Wanted to see my falls)
Agression: 3 (Even at 3 the CPU chases me around?)
Hitting Power: 6 (didnt want ever hit to be a BOMB)
Size Effect: 50*
Speed Effect: 35*
Checking/Balance Rating Effect: 85*
Preparedness Effect: 55*
Incidental Contact Effect: 80*
Poke Checking Accuracy: 83 (raised this up as CPU didnt seem to ever Poke)
Poke Checking Power: 8 (Wanted to see less disatnce on poked pucks)
Stick Lift Effectiveness: 80*


AI
AI Learning: 0
CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0/6
CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 60*
Fight Difficulty: 60
CPU Strategy Adjustment: 0
User Strategy Adjustment: 0/6*
BAP Strategy Adjustment: 2/6

Rules
Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
Fighting: 1/2*
Icing: Hybrid Icing
Injuries: On
Offsides: Delayed
Penalties: 2/4*
Trapezoid Rule: On
Penalty Time Scaling: 3/6*
Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 2/6

[dowie]

if I were you, I’d do a side by side comparison if yours and TNKGM’s set.

Or just use his?

I like the pace he created w/his set.

Dowie

[johnnydrum]

Think I might have to have a rethink
Perhaps I am trying to make ALL STAR "easier" when I probably should be thinking of making PRO "harder"----at least I can score a goal on that level....i just wonder if the CPU will score too?
Hmmmmm.....lol

[Fishbone Walker]

I find that when I want to make the game more challenging, I just want the CPU to be better offensively, but any time I increase the difficulty, not only does the CPU become INSANELY good at defence (like robots who are faster, stronger and 100% more accurate with checking, poke checks, pass interceptions and shot blocks) but I think the game makes it harder for the user. For instance, I noticed after my last increase that my AI teammates tended to just stay put and not try to get open when I had the puck. On top of that, it feels like passing isn't as quick or accurate, either. Basically it changes the whole feel of the fun game I was enjoying.

Anyway, I use similar sliders as the OP, but increase passing to 45-75...it feels more realistic that way. I also reduce CPU interceptions and poke checking a lot (try to leave room for having to reduce it again when I level myself up and go through the whole painful process all over again lol)

[johnnydrum]

Thank you for the replies.
I have actually restarted the project on PRO----and feel its easier to tailor the game go "upwards" (by reducing the Human sliders) , than trying to tone down the CPU sliders on Allstar ...if that makes sense....lol

5 games in on PRO ( but with reduced Human sliders) really enjoying it.
CPU can pressure me, and still score, which is welcome, but no longer acts like super human.

[RichFlairWooo]

Is it the same sliders set you posted just on Pro? I agree that on All-Star the CPU just pursued way too aggressively and was quicker to every loose puck

[johnnydrum]

Hiya there----heres my PRO Sliders--
After trying in vain to get a realistic balance, one concluded that perhaps it was simply too difficult for someone of my age and gaming skills, to get what I was looking for on All Star, so had a re-think on PRO

These sliders will not be for most people but for me I was finally able to enjoy some decent competition.
As always, I welcome any improvements or suggestions though.

Period Length: 8 minutes*
Difficulty: PRO
Away Line Changes: Auto
Away Shot Aim: Manual
Home Line Changes: Auto
Home Shot Aim: Manual

Gameplay Sliders

General
Gameplay Version: Latest

Attribute Effects: 5/10 (Tinkering at 6)
Broken Stick Frequency: 35*
Game Speed: 0
Fatigue Effect: 90
Fatigue Recovery: 40
Injury Occurence: 55

Skating
Back Skating: 75
Hustle Type: Authentic
Puck Carrier Agility: 50
Puck Carrier Skating: 50
Player Acceleration: 25 - 21
Skating Speed: 25 - 23
Skating Agility: 40 - 39

Shooting
One Timer Accuracy: 60 - 72
Shot Accuracy: 52 - 40
Shot Power: 66 - 53
Slap Shot Accuracy: 56 - 50
Slap Shot Power: 63 - 60

Passing
Manual Passing: OFF
Pass Assist: 88
Min Pass Speed: 36
Max Pass Speed: 50
Saucer Pass Speed: 35
Pass Accuracy: CPU 20
Pass Interceptions: 10
Pass Reception Ease: 26
Reception Reaction Time: 50 - 43
Puck Control Rating Effect: 50
Puck Speed Reception Effect: 60
Pickup Type Effect: 50
Bouncing Puck Receptions: 38 - 44 (So I can get "some" bounces)

Puck Control
Stick In Physics: Stick, Legs And Body
Incidental Contact Puck Loss: Stick, Legs And Body
Incidental Stick Contact Immunity: 10
Puck Control: 16 - 12
Deking Impact: 48
Spin Deke Impact: 60
Skating Impact: 16

Goalies
Goalie Cover Frequency: 90
Goalie Passing: 45*
Goalie Cross Crease Reaction Time: 55 - 50
Goalie Save Reaction Time: 53 - 48
Goalie Deflection Reaction Time: 48
Goalie Screen Effect: 60 - 63
Goalie Screen Persistence: 63

Checking
Board Effect Non-Puck Carrier: 10*
Board Effect Puck Carrier: 10*
Hitting Assistance: 50
Stumble Threshold: 76
Fall And Stumble Fall Ease: 76 (Wanted to see my falls)
Agression: 20
Hitting Power: 6 (didnt want ever hit to be a BOMB)
Size Effect: 55
Speed Effect: 35*
Checking/Balance Rating Effect: 85*
Preparedness Effect: 55*
Incidental Contact Effect: 80*
Poke Checking Accuracy: 88 - 83 (raised this up as CPU didnt seem to ever Poke)
Poke Checking Power: 12 (Wanted to see less disatnce on poked pucks)
Stick Lift Effectiveness: 80*

[jake19ny]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnnydrum

Thank you for the replies. I have actually restarted the project on PRO----and feel its easier to tailor the game go "upwards" (by reducing the Human sliders) , than trying to tone down the CPU sliders on Allstar ...if that makes sense....lol 5 games in on PRO ( but with reduced Human sliders) really enjoying it. CPU can pressure me, and still score, which is welcome, but no longer acts like super human.

From another long time season mode only 53 year old fart, tthis is the way to go. I've grown so weary of slider adjustments I stick with Pro tweaking very little to boost CPU and Lower my team. I've learned that less is more with this series and too much tinkering Jack's up the whole thing. Too many slider adjustments cause unintended consequences so fixing 2 things breaks something else.

Since you do your own rosters I also found giving all the startering goalies 3 to 6 xfactor abilities helps. There some I think they all should have but I'll be damned if I can this of which ones at the moment.....that's the age lol.