23 CPU lineup logic is not fixed

[djflock]

To start, i get this is a test version so hopefully something is diff in the final version.


Played a couple games vs cpu in DD and they still set their lineups as if we are in 1995. Just saw Giancarlo and Ketel marte batting 8th. dbacks/yankees had buddy kennedy/mccarthy & bader/cabrera, their two fastest players batting 1-2.

If they do not know how to fix this dumb lineup logic, they need to at least have some sort editable quirk-style apparatus where we can assign a player to the 2 hole, leadoff spot, etc to assist the cpu.

[Rocket32]

Quote: Originally Posted by djflock

To start, i get this is a test version so hopefully something is diff in the final version. Played a couple games vs cpu in DD and they still set their lineups as if we are in 1995. Just saw Giancarlo and Ketel marte batting 8th. dbacks/yankees had buddy kennedy/mccarthy & bader/cabrera, their two fastest players batting 1-2. If they do not know how to fix this dumb lineup logic, they need to at least have some sort editable quirk-style apparatus where we can assign a player to the 2 hole, leadoff spot, etc to assist the cpu.

It’s most likely going to be the same in the final version, there’s really no reason to believe that this is finally the year they are putting serious under the hood work into CPU logic. I’ll be stunned if it is. They almost certainly could improve it, but it just doesn’t seem to be a priority. It doesn’t sell the game. It’s not going to grab the average player’s attention.

If they don’t mention it in the franchise/MTO stream, it’s pretty safe to say that nothing will be changing on that front for yet another year.

[djflock]

It is just so frustrating having to do 30 team control to manage a lineup to make sure a teams worst hitter is not batting 2nd and best power hitter is batting 8th.


Maybe we underestimate how hard these things are to do though. As good as NBA 2k23 is, I still have to manage their lineups as well or every team will be playing with twin towers. Two C's, one at PF, even if he doesn't have PF at his second position. Madden's fatigue doesn't work so every teams #1 rb will set the league record for carries and the no WR past the top 3 will get any catches.

Seems like these games are still using lineup code from ps3. Frustrating man.

[jcar0725]

The best way to deal with that is to ignore it for the most part. We get too caught up all that. I can understand making sure a teams roster is set up properly using 30 team control. I do that often. But you can really go nuts trying to deal with managing every teams lineup based on what you think it should be. I've been there. It makes you lose focus on how good the game actually is.

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[ninertravel]

yes and I am sure the BP logic will be the same and as bad as always with the obsession of using the LR everytime the Starter can't make it to 5 innings and sticking to the LR for the remainder of the game.

[djflock]

Quote: Originally Posted by jcar0725

The best way to deal with that is to ignore it for the most part. We get too caught up all that. I can understand making sure a teams roster is set up properly using 30 team control. I do that often. But you can really go nuts trying to deal with managing every teams lineup based on what you think it should be. I've been there. It makes you lose focus on how good the game actually is. Sent from my thoughts

Yea, I can't lol The cpu having a randomized batting order is something I can't get past. lol

[djflock]

Quote: Originally Posted by ninertravel

yes and I am sure the BP logic will be the same and as bad as always with the obsession of using the LR everytime the Starter can't make it to 5 innings and sticking to the LR for the remainder of the game.

FRUSTRATING. There has got be some sort of Quirk hot fix where maybe pitchers can't pitch more than 2 days in a row or something

[Ragnar84]

Assuming this is not new but as an example that I’ve seen with cpu lineups in my RANGERS FRANCHISE. SHOHEI, listed as #1 starter but is not in the cpu controlled lineups. Played Angels many times obviously, and never once was he in the lineup or as a pinch hitter. The two way player thing has to be fixed along with the ai bullpen logic.


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