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Old 11-17-2022, 11:41 AM   #1
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NBA 2K23 Official Roster Update (11.17.22) - 2nd Ratings Update

11.17.22 Official NBA 2K23 Roster Update - 2nd Ratings Update



****Philadelphia 76ers****
- Joel Embiid - 96 OVR (+1)
- James Harden - Position Update to SG/PG
- PJ Tucker - 76 OVR (-1)
- Montrezl Harrell - 76 OVR (+1)
- Matisse Thybulle - 75 OVR (-1)
- Georges Niang - 75 OVR (+1)
- Danuel House Jr - 73 OVR (+1)
- Shake Milton - 73 OVR (-1)

****Milwaukee Bucks****
- Grayson Allen - 76 OVR (+1)
- Jevon Carter - 75 OVR (+3) - Position change to PG/SG
- Marjon Beauchamp - 72 OVR (+1)
- Sandro Mamukelashvili - Position Update to C/PF

****Chicago Bulls****
- Zach Lavine - 87 OVR (-1)
- Nikola Vucevic - 82 OVR (-1)
- Ayo Dosunmu - 76 OVR (-1)
- Alex Caruso - Position change to SG/SF
- Goran Dragic - 76 OVR (+1)
- Derrick Jones Jr - 76 OVR (+2)

****Cleveland Cavaliers****
- Caris LeVert - 78 OVR (-1)
- Dean Wade - 75 OVR (-1)
- Cedi Osman - 74 OVR (-1)
- Lamar Stevens - 74 OVR (-1)

****Boston Celtics****
- Jayson Tatum - 95 OVR (+1) - Position Update to SF/PF
- Jaylen Brown - Position Update to SG/SG
- Malcolm Brogdon - Position Update to PG/SG
- Grant Williams - 78 OVR (+1)
- Blake Griffin - 75 OVR (-1)
- Luke Kornet - 74 OVR (+4)
- Sam Hauser - 72 OVR (+1)

****LA Clippers****
- Paul George - 89 OVR (+1)
- Marcus Morris Sr - 78 OVR (+1)
- Norman Powell - 76 OVR (-2)
- Terance Mann - 76 OVR (+1)
- Robert Covington - 76 OVr (-1)
- Luke Kennard - 74 OVR (-1)
- Nic Batum - 74 OVR (-2)
- Amir Coffey - 74 OVR (-1)

****Memphis Grizzlies****
- Dillon Brooks - 79 OVR (-1)
- Santi Aldama - 77 OVR (+3)

****Atlanta Hawks****
- Trae Young - 89 OVR (-1)
- John Collins - 81 OVR (-2)
- Onyeka Okongwu - 77 OVR (+1)
- AJ Griffin - 74 OVR (+2) - Position Update to SF/SG
- Aaron Holiday 73 OVR (-1)
- Justin Holiday - Position Update to SG/SF
- Jalen Johnson - 72 OVR (-1)

****Miami Heat****
- Max Strus - 78 OVR (+2)
- Dewayne Dedmon - 75 OVR (+1)
- Caleb Martin - 74 OVR (-1)

****Charlotte Hornets****
- Terry Rozier III - 80 OVR (-2)
- Kelly Oubre Jr - 79 OVR (+1)
- PJ Washington - 77 OVR (-1)
- Mason Plumlee - 77 OVR (+1)
- Nick Richards - 77 OVR (+1)
- Theo Maledon - 72 OVR (-1)

****Utah Jazz****
- Lauri Markkanen - 85 OVR (+3)
- Collin Sexton - 80 OVR (+1)
- Jordan Clarkson - 80 OVR (+3)
- Jared Vanderbilt - 80 OVR (+2)
- Kelly Olynyk - 77 OVR (+1)
- Malik Beasley - 77 OVR (+1)
- Walker Kessler - 77 OVRR (+1)
- Talen Horton Tucker - 77 OVR (+3)

****Sacramento Kings****
- De'Aaron Fox - 87 OVR (+2)
- Damontas Sabonis - 85 OVR (+1)
- Kevin Huerter - 80 OVR (+1)
- Malik Monk - 78 OVR (+2)
- Terence Davis - 77 OVR (+1)
- Davion Mitchell - 75 OVr (-2)
- Trey Lyles- 74 OVR (-1)

****New York Knicks****
- Jalen Brunson - 85 OVR (+2)
- Julius Randle - 83 OVR (+1)
- RJ Barrett - 83 OVR (-1)
- Obi Toppin - 80 OVR (+2)
- Derrick Rose - 79 OVR (-2)
- Immanuel Quickley - 77 OVR (+1)
- Isaiah Hartenstein 76 OVR (+1)
- Cam Reddish - Position Update to SG/SF
- Evan Fournier - 74 OVR (-1)
- Jericho Sims - 73 OVR (+2)
- Quentin Grimes - Position Update to SF/SG

****LA Lakers****
- LeBron James - Position Update to PF/SF
- Anthony Davis - 91 OVR (+1)
- Russell Westbrook 79 OVR (+2)
- Lonnie Walker IV - 77 OVR (+2)
- Patrick Beverley - Position Update to PG/SG
- Damian Jones - 73 OVR (+1)
- Wenyen Gabriel - Position Update to C/PF
- Max Christie - 71 OVR (+1)

****Orlando Magic****
- Franz Wagner - 81 OVR (+1)
- Bol Bol - 79 OVR (+3)
- Jalen Suggs - 76 OVR (+1)
- RJ Hampton 76 OVR (+3)
- Terrence Ross - Position Update to SF/SG
- Chuma Okeke - 75 OVR (+2)
- Caleb Houstan - Position Update to SF/SG

****Dallas Mavericks****
- Spencer Dinwiddie - 82 OVR (+2)
- Tim Hardaway Jr - 76 OVR (-1) - Position update to SG/SF
- Josh Green - 76 OVR (+2) - Position update to SF/SG
- Maxi Kleber - 74 OVR (-1)


****Brooklyn Nets****
-Nic Claxton - 79 OVR (+3)
- Kyrie Irving - Position Update to PG/SG
- Ben Simmons - 78 OVR (-2)
- Edmund Sumner - 76 OVR (+1)
- Cam Thomas - 76 OVR (+2)
- Joe Harris - 75 OVR (-1) - Position Update to SG/SF
- Yuta Watanabe - 74 OVR (+2) - Position Update to PF/C

****Denver Nuggets****
- Aaron Gordon - 80 OVR (+1)
- Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 78 OVR (+2)
- Nah'Shon Hyland - 77 OVR (+1)
- Jeff Green - 75 OVR (-1)
- Christian Braun - Position Update to SF/SG
- Davon Reed - 71 OVR (-1)

****Indiana Pacers****
- Tyrese Haliburton - 87 OVR (+1)
- Myles Turner - 83 OVR (+1)
- Bennedict Mathurin - 81 OVR (+1)
- Buddy Hield - 80 OVR (+1)
- Jalen Smith - 75 OVR (-1)
- Oshae Brissett - 74 OVR (-1)
- Andrew Nembhard - Position Update to SG/PG

****New Orleans Pelicans****
- Zion Williamson - 88 OVR (+1)
- CJ McCollum - 84 OVR (-1)
- Larry Nance Jr - 77 OVR +1)
- Devonte Graham - Position Update to SG/PG
- Naji Marshall - 75 OVR (-1) - Position Update to PF/SF
- Dyson Daniels - 74 OVR (+1)

****Detroit Pistons****
- Cade Cunningham -
- Bojan Bogdanovic - Posiiton Update to SF/PF
- Saddiq Bey - Position Update to PF/SF
- Jaden Ivey 79 OVR (+1)
- Isaiah Stewart - 79 OVR (+1)
- Jalen Duren - 76 (+1)
- Nerlens Noel - 75 OVR (-1)
- Cory Joseph - Position Update to PG/SG
- Killian Hayes - 70 OVR (-1)


****Toronto Raptors****
- Fred VanVleet - 84 OVR (+1)
- Scottie Barnes - 84 OVR (-1)
- OG Anunoby - 83 OVR (+2)
- Chris Boucher - 78 OVR (+2)
- Precious Achiuwa - 77 OVR (+2)
- Dalano Banton - 76 OVR (+2)
- Thad Young - 76 OVR (+2)

****Houston Rockets****
- Jalen Green - 84 OVR (+2)
- Alperen Sengun - 80 OVR (+1)
- Kevin Porter Jr - 79 OVR (+1)
- Tari Eason 77 OVR (+1)
- Kenyon Martin Jr - 76 OVR (+1)
- Jabari Smith Jr - 75 OVR (-3)
- Josh Christopher - 74 OVR (-1)
- Daishen Nix - 69 OVR (+2)

****San Antonio Spurs****
- Keldon Johnson 84 OVR (+1)
- Devin Vassell - 83 OVR (+4)
- Jakob Poeltl - 79 OVR (+1)
- Tre Jones - 77 OVR (+3)
- Zach Collins - 76 OVR (+1)
- Keita Bates-Diop - 75 OVR (+1)
- Josh Richardson - 75 OVR (-2)
- Doug McDermott - 74 OVR (-1)

****Phoenix Suns****
- DeAndre Ayton - 83 OVR (-1)
- Cameron Payne - 77 OVR (+1)
- Torrey Craig - 76 OVR (+1)
- Jock Landale - 75 OVR (+2)
- Landry Shamet - 73 OVR (-1)


****Oklahoma City Thunder****
- Shai Gilgeous Alexander - 90 OVR (+1)
- Lu Dort - 78 OVR (+1)
- Aleksej Pokusevski - 77 OVR (+2)
- Darius Bazely - 76 OVR (+1) - Position Update to PF/C
- Jeremiah Robinson-Earl - 75 OVR (+2)
- Aaron Wiggins - Position Update to SG/SF
- Jalen Williams - Position Update to SF/SG
- Ousmane Dieng - Position Update to SF/PF


****Minnesota Timberwolves****
- Anthony Edwards - 85 OVR (-1)
- Kyle Anderson - 78 OVR (+2)
- Jaylen Nowell - 77 OVR (+1)
- Naz Reid - 76 OVR (+1)
- Taurean Prince - 75 OVR (-1)
- AJ Lawson - Added to Team on Two-Way Contract

****Portland Trail Blazers****
- Josh Hart - 78 OVR (-2)
- Drew Eubanks - 77 OVR (+2)
- Nassir Little - 77 OVR (+1) - Position Update to PF/SF
- Justise Winslow - Position Update to SF/PG
- Shaedon Sharpe - 75 OVR (+1)
- Trendon Watford - Position Update to PF/C
- Jabari Walker - 70 OVR (+2)

****Golden State Warriors****
- Steph Curry - 97 OVR (+1)
- James Wiseman - 77 (+1)
- Ty Jerome - 75 OVR (+3)
- Jonathan Kuminga - 74 OVR (-2)
- Donte DiVincenzo - 74 OVR (-2)
- JaMychal Green - 74OVR (-1)
- Anthony Lamb - 73 OVR (+5)

****Washington Wizards****
- Monte Morris - 78 OVR (-1)
- Daniel Gafford - 77 OVR (+1)
- Jordan Goodwin - 73 OVR (+6) - Position Update to PG/SG

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Old 11-17-2022, 11:52 AM   #2
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Good chunk of the Dub’s roster get decreases in overalls except the three dudes who probably need it the most.
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And still no contracts were updated ( rj barrett..)
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Good chunk of the Dub’s roster get decreases in overalls except the three dudes who probably need it the most.
Exactly. Defense/Athletic ratings are continually being ignored, hence why there is no decrease for Kaly or Draymond. They didn't even touch the 3PT shooting for Klay which makes it evident there is a bias toward the Warriors in general IMO.

Jerami Grant has been phenomenal for the Blazers yet gets completely ignored. Anfernee Simons has been very consistent for Portland, yet gets ignored, and still has a VERY LOW 79 Stamina for 2 years in a row.

Killian Hayes has actually played well over the past few games, yet he goes down in OVR

No update for Kyle Kuzma or Rui Hachimura, despite both playing very well for Washington. Johnny Davis and Vernon Carey Jr are G-League rostered players who have been awful in limited NBA mins but yet they have a 74 OVR/73 OVR in rating. Make it make sense.

Clint Capela has averaged 14 PPG, 15 RPG, on 62% FG from 11.2-11.15 games (2K didn't count 11.2 or 11.16 games in their data for the last two roster updates) but yet he had no change from 81 OVR

DeAndre Hunter continually gets ignored and is a lowly 76 OVR despite averaging 17 PPG & 4RPG in that same span. Dejounte Murray has been awesome for ATL yet not rating but (+1) at all.

I can go on and on with examples. This is definitely becoming frustrating that 2K refuses to update Defense or Athletic ratings at all despite the desperate need for them
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Exactly. Defense/Athletic ratings are continually being ignored, hence why there is no decrease for Kaly or Draymond. They didn't even touch the 3PT shooting for Klay which makes it evident there is a bias toward the Warriors in general IMO.
It almost feels like 2K is trying to be friendly with Klay after he and Ronnie had a public disagreement regarding his rating, specifically his 3PT rating.
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Exactly. Defense/Athletic ratings are continually being ignored, hence why there is no decrease for Kaly or Draymond. They didn't even touch the 3PT shooting for Klay which makes it evident there is a bias toward the Warriors in general IMO.

Jerami Grant has been phenomenal for the Blazers yet gets completely ignored. Anfernee Simons has been very consistent for Portland, yet gets ignored, and still has a VERY LOW 79 Stamina for 2 years in a row.

Killian Hayes has actually played well over the past few games, yet he goes down in OVR

No update for Kyle Kuzma or Rui Hachimura, despite both playing very well for Washington. Johnny Davis and Vernon Carey Jr are G-League rostered players who have been awful in limited NBA mins but yet they have a 74 OVR/73 OVR in rating. Make it make sense.

Clint Capela has averaged 14 PPG, 15 RPG, on 62% FG from 11.2-11.15 games (2K didn't count 11.2 or 11.16 games in their data for the last two roster updates) but yet he had no change from 81 OVR

DeAndre Hunter continually gets ignored and is a lowly 76 OVR despite averaging 17 PPG & 4RPG in that same span. Dejounte Murray has been awesome for ATL yet not rating but (+1) at all.

I can go on and on with examples. This is definitely becoming frustrating that 2K refuses to update Defense or Athletic ratings at all despite the desperate need for them
LeBron getting nothing but his position changed is hilarious
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DeAndre Hunter continually gets ignored and is a lowly 76 OVR despite averaging 17 PPG & 4RPG in that same span...
This one caught my attention Hunter should be closer to 80 and with several badges (but still a flat 76)... in the meantime... Lebron still a 96 is starting to smell bad already... LOL.
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BADGE UPDATES
Jayson Tatum: 43 (+3)
Max Strus: 8 (+3)
Lauri Markkanen: 8 (+5)
Obi Toppin: 6 (+2)
Ben Simmons: 20 (-6)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: 7 (+1)
Devin Vassell: 4 (+3)

Credit should be given where it is due. 2K is much more on top of badges than they were last year. They still have a LONG way to go.

This also doesn't reflect badge updates where the totals didn't change. For example last update Donovan Mitchell had some badges upgraded even though no new ones were added. I expect to find something similar w/ Jayson Tatum this time around (and the inverse w/ Ben Simmons).

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Exactly. Defense/Athletic ratings are continually being ignored, hence why there is no decrease for Kaly or Draymond. They didn't even touch the 3PT shooting for Klay which makes it evident there is a bias toward the Warriors in general IMO.
We have known for 20 years that 2K overrates superstars and has no qualms about breaking their scales to ensure they maintain high OVRs. The reasons for this are financially motivated. (This comes from someone in the upper echelons of the company).

Kobe Bryant was overrated for pretty much his entire 30s. Kids were buying games to play with him. Dirk Nowitzki was another example of a player who had a few attributes kept arbitrarily high so that he'd maintain his OVR. It's the same deal with LeBron and Curry.

As we've seen in a host of other forum topics, FEELINGS > FACTS for a lot of people, even those in their 40s. 10% of fans might want Klay Thompson's rating dropped but 90% are uninformed / casuals - who also happen to be the most outspoken/disgruntled - and not annual buyers.

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Jerami Grant has been phenomenal for the Blazers yet gets completely ignored. Anfernee Simons has been very consistent for Portland, yet gets ignored, and still has a VERY LOW 79 Stamina for 2 years in a row.
I will just say that about 95% of the players with OVR changes, they can be explained just from diving in. On the surface something might seem off, but it's usually not the case.

Simons for example is at basically the same production he was at last season. His play also didn't improve over the last ratings cycle.
First two weeks: 22 PPG, 4 APG, 37 MPG (44-37-90)
Last two weeks: 23 PPG, 4 APG, 35 MPG (40-38-82)

I personally was surprised Darius Garland didn't go up given he dropped 51 in his last game. But then saw he shot 6-28 from the field in the two games leading up to that. It's human nature that we fixate on the good memories and discard the bad ones.

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Clint Capela has averaged 14 PPG, 15 RPG, on 62% FG from 11.2-11.15 games (2K didn't count 11.2 or 11.16 games in their data for the last two roster updates) but yet he had no change from 81 OVR
This is an example that stuck out to me as nitpicking.

Capela
2022 Basic: 11.1 PPG, 11.9 RPG, 27.6 MPG, 61.3 FG%
2023 Basic: 11.4 PPG, 11.9 RPG, 27.4 MPG, 60.5 FG%

2022 Advanced: 60.4 TS%, 15.5 USG%, 23.5 REB%, 4.1 BLK%
2023 Advanced: 60.5 TS%, 15.9 USG%, 22.7 REB%, 4.6 BLK%

Capela is the same exact player he was last season. No change is necessary because 2K didn't overreact to the small sample of the first two weeks.

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Killian Hayes has actually played well over the past few games, yet he goes down in OVR
Killian Hayes is shooting 31% from the field (37 TS%). Come on man. A three-game stretch doesn't eliminate the 11 games he shot 20% from the field.

He's a major reason why DET's bench units have been a train wreck (they're like -20 when the starters exit!) and why the team is worst in the East. He should have a higher rating to get him in the AI rotation, but not because he's been playing well.

I think a lot of these OVR critiques constitute nitpicking. 2K largely has production-related attributes under control. Keep them focused on the larger issues that actually matter:

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This is definitely becoming frustrating that 2K refuses to update Defense or Athletic ratings at all despite the desperate need for them
Those attributes SHOULD be stable and not getting changed frequently.
The thing is they should be getting reviewed once a year rather than once every FIVE years.

The roster devs butchered a handful of players like Simons many years ago (who has come a long way since the 7 MPG of his rookie season), and they are so disconnected from the community that they can't hear anyone's cries. As mentioned, it is OVER A YEAR that users have been making this specific complaint, across a multitude of media. There's a 10-second solution to a 1,000-day old problem. Yet they are so disconnected from their own work that they likely don't even know it's an issue. They prefer to work blindly in the dark because they can't take criticism, no matter how justified.

They only seem to address long-term issues when I make an especially venomous & pointed stink on Twitter, so maybe I should try that.
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