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Old 05-26-2017, 02:28 AM   #137
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This isn't about the "other" game. It seems like only NBA live fans bring up the "other" game when it comes to trying to defend some of Lives shortcomings.

This isn't about Live trying to be 2K. This is about Live delivering a solid basketball title to the masses. Forget 2K. Carve your own niche, be innovative, do something great.

Let's not use 2K as a scapegoat every time someone criticizes something in Live. Honestly, we are ALL NBA live fans, or we wouldn't be in this forum.

I remember first playing Live 95 on the NES and instantly falling in love with the franchise. It had many many many many solid years, with Live 10 being it's peak IMO. There are reasons they can't go back to the formula they used in Live 10, but you're not going to tell me the guys making this game are incapable of putting out another classic basketball title. (Maybe they're not, but I don't want to push that speculation)

Live 16 was a solid foundation, it just had way too many fundamental basketball issues for it to be a great game, sans the animation issues. I want Live to succeed, as does everyone in this thread. Let's not make it a 2K vs Live thing because that's the ultimate cop out.


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Totally disagree.
You entered in a market to sold copies and your rival is Nba2K, no other one. You have to take 2K like a point to overcome and you have to make better than 2K. If you'are not able to do this, you're out of the market.
It's not a question of fun or historical Nba Live fan. I was an Nba Live fan and now i'm a 2K fan. Nba Live have lost me. Why? Simple, 2K is better.
The only way i can return to be a Nba Live fan is only one: they have to do a better game than Nba2K.
So simple.
And i'ts clear EA is still not able to do this. Nba Live 18 it's better than Nba Live 16? Certainly. 16? Wake up, we are goin' in 2018! Nba Live 18 needs to be better than Nba 2K18, not than Nba Live 16!
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Old 05-26-2017, 03:12 AM   #138
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Totally disagree.
You entered in a market to sold copies and your rival is Nba2K, no other one. You have to take 2K like a point to overcome and you have to make better than 2K. If you'are not able to do this, you're out of the market.
It's not a question of fun or historical Nba Live fan. I was an Nba Live fan and now i'm a 2K fan. Nba Live have lost me. Why? Simple, 2K is better.
The only way i can return to be a Nba Live fan is only one: they have to do a better game than Nba2K.
So simple.
And i'ts clear EA is still not able to do this. Nba Live 18 it's better than Nba Live 16? Certainly. 16? Wake up, we are goin' in 2018! Nba Live 18 needs to be better than Nba 2K18, not than Nba Live 16!


For me I'm a longtime NBA LIVE fan (dang! those NBA LIVE '98 in PS to NBA LIVE 2003).

Then 2K10 came in...

I'm a casual gamer so I might probably buy both 2K18 and LIVE18 and test drive. If I like it I keep it if not, there's always a market for "pre-loved" games at $10 less.
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Old 05-26-2017, 04:32 AM   #139
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Uh oh, here we go again with the weird robot looking animations. I'm beginning to wonder if this is ever going to get fixed, it's been a problem for years.
It's been an issue for them since the sega genesis days
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Old 05-26-2017, 12:44 PM   #140
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Live 16 had its flaws . Defense especially in the paint needed much improvement . Animations looked weird . I liked the graphics and they look even better here.

One thing for me that I've felt even in ,live 15 , was that player knowledge and stick skills matter more in live. That's my opinion though.
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Totally disagree.
You entered in a market to sold copies and your rival is Nba2K, no other one. You have to take 2K like a point to overcome and you have to make better than 2K. If you'are not able to do this, you're out of the market.
It's not a question of fun or historical Nba Live fan. I was an Nba Live fan and now i'm a 2K fan. Nba Live have lost me. Why? Simple, 2K is better.
The only way i can return to be a Nba Live fan is only one: they have to do a better game than Nba2K.
So simple.
And i'ts clear EA is still not able to do this. Nba Live 18 it's better than Nba Live 16? Certainly. 16? Wake up, we are goin' in 2018! Nba Live 18 needs to be better than Nba 2K18, not than Nba Live 16!
That's an unrealistic expectation though. Yeah they should strive to compete with 2k but since Live 10 they've struggled to release a game that belongs on the same court as 2k, let alone being a better game. They should want to be like 2K in terms of being a good/great basketball sim, assuming that's the goal of Live, but Live needs its own identity as well. Something that makes Live different from 2k.

Right now Live just needs to fined a way to gain fans and be relevant, which can be done in a number of ways. They can take advantage of what people dislike about 2K and make them a strength (better online experience, more control and freedom, better stadium atmosphere, etc). They could add a mode that is essentially NBA Street, since it seems like they won't make an actually new NBA Street game. I know I'd buy Live day one if there was an Arcade type mode that was essentially a modern version of Street. Or simply sell the game at launch for cheaper ($40-$45). I'm sure there would be a lot of people willing to buy Live instead of 2k for a cheaper price or atleast buy Live as well as 2k. This is what 2k did way back for their 2k5 games and it worked. I'd go as far as to say that's part of the reason 2k was able to become so popular. People that normally didn't buy 2k games had a cheap way to fully experience 2k and it opened there eyes to a new experience.
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Old 05-26-2017, 02:24 PM   #142
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I just can't imagine being a company the size of EA Sports, knowing you have to compete with 2K Sports, and you fly Youtubers out to reveal this? It looks improved, but it still doesn't look good.
That's why they bought them shoes and gave them face scans.... it worked.

EA's one mistake was supplying them with that teaser because no amount of BS can hide what we saw in that teaser.
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Old 05-26-2017, 02:27 PM   #143
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It's been an issue for them since the sega genesis days
Lol.

They put out such a quality game back then, though if you think about it. They even had those yellow tabs on the cartridges because, hey, it's EA.

If this game is the same as Live 16, they should either fire the ENTIRE team or just give up.

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If this game is the same as Live 16, they should either fire the ENTIRE team or just give up.
LOL what?? gotta love this new America!
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