MLB The Show 17 Patch 1.06 Available Now, Patch Notes Included

[djep]

Quote: Originally Posted by mdiggitydawg

I love the game, but yes, I feel they never "fixed" the starting pitcher hook problem, I find way too many times the opposing starter is getting pulled in the 5th after they have settled down following an early let down. If there was one issue I would love to see remedied it would be this. I still do not feel the game is a complete bust, as some have suggested.

I'm in the same camp - I didn't notice any improvement on AI bullpen logic in the last patch. Still starters getting pulled in weird times and LRP making way too many appearances - which I guess sorta makes sense since the AI manager pulls starters so early in games so often. I'm thinking that which league your franchise is in and the designated hitter could be a reason why some people see this issue and others don't.

[bcruise]

Quote: Originally Posted by djep

I'm in the same camp - I didn't notice any improvement on AI bullpen logic in the last patch. Still starters getting pulled in weird times and LRP making way too many appearances - which I guess sorta makes sense since the AI manager pulls starters so early in games so often. I'm thinking that which league your franchise is in and the designated hitter could be a reason why some people see this issue and others don't.

It doesn't. I play NL ball and frequently see CPU pitchers throw 90-100 pitches before being taken out. If there's a game-on-the-line type situation with the pitcher spot coming up in the 6th or later, then yes I will see a pitcher's outing cut slightly short sometimes. That's normal. It certainly doesn't happen every time, especially if a pitcher is throwing well.

I've asked this before and never really got an answer because everyone fixates on pitch counts - for the people who still see this, what does the pitcher's energy (green bar) look like in these situations where you feel they're being pulled early? If it's below half and inching towards 1/4 they are tired and should be very susceptible to getting pulled. Dropping even below the 10% range or so means a starter will not recover his entire energy bar in a 5-man rotation with no days off. The AI must avoid this at all costs or else it will cause bigger issues with LR innings in future games/sims.

Also, since the game went and downloaded the patch anyway (oops...forgot to cancel it) here's my games played stats that I referenced earlier. I, uh.....might have undershot that estimate a bit:

[seasprite]

I haven't noticed the pitchers getting pulled early...but that's just what I have seen. I wonder if it may have anything to do with time of season. Not sure the game logic is that deep, but are people noticing the pitchers getting pulled early in games starting in early May? Early in the season, its certainly acceptable to see pitchers pulled early as many teams do this IRL. Just my .02

[bcruise]

BTW, here's an obvious fix in this patch that wasn't listed - for away games the Cubs now default to their alternate road uniform (the red C with the bear) instead of their Road '82. They wear those far more frequently IRL than their grey roads so it's really just an "alternate" in name only. That probably means it's been fixed for RTTS as well.

[Acts 4 12]

Quote: Originally Posted by Glenn33

To be clear - I am not insulting your opinion. It just seems like a trend [on these boards] is to call any feature not liked in the game a "gimmick". I think the term is not used properly. But that's just me - that's my problem. But as far as playing the game how YOU want to play it - can't you just turn all the cutscenes off [quick play/mode..whatever the presentation option is called]? Won't that solve your problem?

I'm not trying speak for Aroid I just think that I understand what he's saying. I don't think cutscenes are an issue for him. I think not having the option to turn off the "no doubter" HR cutscene is what he was referencing. Some people like the organic feel of watching a HR from the gameplay camera instead of having a cutscene take away the suspense immediately. I believe in the past that was an option now it isn't. The other thing mentioned was the slo no camera on tags at second base. Again some people want to see things played out in real time without that slo mo. Some people will think these things are cool and some will think they're gimmicks. That's why it's always the best move to give people options.

[KnightTemplar]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayD

Back when I was having these issues I kept telling myself there is no way I'm hitting the shoulder buttons. I apparently was without noticing while batting. Change the way you hold your controller.

Uh, sorry....no. It had nothing to do with the controller. Been playing this game for years.

[Glenn33]

Quote: Originally Posted by Acts 4 12

I'm not trying speak for Aroid I just think that I understand what he's saying. I don't think cutscenes are an issue for him. I think not having the option to turn off the "no doubter" HR cutscene is what he was referencing. Some people like the organic feel of watching a HR from the gameplay camera instead of having a cutscene take away the suspense immediately. I believe in the past that was an option now it isn't. The other thing mentioned was the slo no camera on tags at second base. Again some people want to see things played out in real time without that slo mo. Some people will think these things are cool and some will think they're gimmicks. That's why it's always the best move to give people options.

Fair enough. Thanks for the explanation.

[Neil33]

Quote: Originally Posted by PsychoBulk

You know i find this intriguing, and im not calling you out on this my friend, you have no reason to lie. Its simply the variance in what people are seeing, as i literally have not seen this issue at all. I play full games, Manager Hook on 2 and have never seen a pitcher yanked that i disagreed with based on game performance, pitches thrown etc. Strange how some see it glaringly, others not at all.

I completely agree. Same slider setting and I have not seen this as a recurring issue. I can only recall one or two games where I actually questioned an SP being pulled. I just faced off against Kershaw, he gave up 4 runs an 11 hits and went out for the 8th and was pulled when I led off with a double.