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Old 04-12-2017, 12:12 PM   #105
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I agree that it's very strange how anal people are about small visual details when there are significant, relatively easy-to-fix gameplay issues to work out. I don't understand how someone can think getting the socks right is more important than in-season contract extensions, but if that's what the fans are asking for, then we gameplay critics need to speak up louder, I guess? I don't know even know how the developers find out what the customers want. What channels do they use to reach out to us?
Yea but to each their own. For me, I've watched almost every single Angels game for the last 20 years and go to 10 games per season...yet I have no idea if The Show has their socks, jersey fonts, alternate jerseys, gloves, stripes etc all correct. I don't even know if they have stadium details or dimensions correct. Just not my thing. If it looks and plays like a rat, then golly it must be a rat

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Old 04-12-2017, 12:20 PM   #106
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Contract Extensions aren't a gameplay issue, and is way harder to implement then the correct socks.


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People that aren't programmers usually assume something is easy to implement. "Oh just add it in, such and such had it in their game." That's generally the attitude.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:27 PM   #107
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Contract Extensions aren't a gameplay issue, and is way harder to implement then the correct socks.


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Contracts affect player morale, which affects gameplay in Franchise mode because it influences player ratings. And of course, offering contracts is part of being a realistic GM. Yes, that doesn't apply to arcade mode, so what I'm hearing you say is that you don't count Franchise mode as part of gameplay. Do I have that correct?

How are extensions harder to implement than correct socks? I'm a programmer, so I know how changing even a small feature can break the game. However, offering extensions in-season has been done by many other baseball games, ones that never had official socks. Programming the extension logic would take some time, but once it's coded, it can be mostly re-used in subsequent years.

Those socks, however, need to be updated every year to comply with new graphic upgrades and whatever legal rights Sony must secure to use brand names. Not to mention, players often change sponsors, and developers surely have to keep up with apparel changes every year.

On the flip side, Extension logic never depends on brand rights or ever-increasing fidelity. Comparably, the trade system has been basically the same format for years now - I'm guessing they've made minimal changes over the years to it, and the same can happen with extensions. Once the system is in place, for the most part it only needs tweaking.

Socks need far more than tweaking, but maybe you have better reasons for your claims. I'm definitely interested in your explanation.

And of course, socks and contracts extensions are just one dimension of this "what the fans want" / gameplay dilemma.
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People that aren't programmers usually assume something is easy to implement. "Oh just add it in, such and such had it in their game." That's generally the attitude.
And what about people who are programmers? How does their attitude usually go?
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Any gameplay changes in this patch? I'm just not going to read 14 pages (sorry, I know it's semi-lazy).

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And what about people who are programmers? How does their attitude usually go?
More realistic than ours.

You don't know what their job entails if you aren't a programmer, so why speculate?
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Yea but to each their own. For me, I've watched almost every single Angels game for the last 20 years and go to 10 games per season...yet I have no idea if The Show has their socks, jersey fonts, alternate jerseys, gloves, stripes etc all correct. I don't even know if they have stadium details or dimensions correct. Just not my thing. If it looks and plays like a rat, then golly it must be a rat

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Yeah, I get creeped out by people that notice and get bothered by that stuff. To me it just takes things too far. OCD plays a big part in the OS forums.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:34 PM   #112
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Any gameplay changes in this patch? I'm just not going to read 14 pages (sorry, I know it's semi-lazy).

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Nothing reported on. The things mentioned in the first post are all we know of for sure.
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