New NBA 2K17 Patch: Expanded Dev Notes

[iFnotWhyNoT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Da_Czar

We were able to get that next update in this morning to fix the issue with the bad copy paste. SO if you go the roster updated this morning then you have the latest one's.

Well color me impressed...

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[Baebae32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Da_Czar

Well HOTDAM! Thank the lord for my Caveat at the beginning of that video. Someone popped in a stream and mentioned this post. So I checked with my engineer and It does appear I was incorrect. First off thank you for understanding and how you handled this. Ok. so I will pull that video after I post this so I'm not misleading anyone else. For clarification. For screen help No help means there will be no hedger No rotation means there will be a hedger but no rotation behind him. The way our pick and roll defense is setup there are 3 roles a helper and to rotations guys so it made sense to me that a setting of no help means whoever that help guy is don't come. I had it flipped Mybad

Thanks for checking with the engineers and getting us clarification Czar. I was the one who popped into your stream so i appreciate you following up as you said you would. Maybe next year it should be implemented as the way you explained in your video. It makes more sense to me that way as well.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Yeah I was operating off the assumption that the individual page is based on them as the ball handler so I assumed after your video I had got it wrong.

Clint you're right that there is no "Dont help off" option but when I played the Warriors I just set no help/no rotation (in the entire team setting) or whatever you call it. This worked ok in defending the 3, but it turned into lay up lines. Pick your poison.

But I do love the idea of choosing you help off, and definitely think we need to be shown how these settings work.

[DC]

I WISH we had, the option to decide whether or not we would like to help off of a player.

Like if I didn't want to help off of KyleKorver for any reason, I wish I could do that

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baebae32

Thanks for checking with the engineers and getting us clarification Czar. I was the one who popped into your stream so i appreciate you following up as you said you would. Maybe next year it should be implemented as the way you explained in your video. It makes more sense to me that way as well.

Rest assured this will immediately be corrected

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by ch46647

You developers do a tremendous job adding a ton of depth to strategic adjustments. However, it would be very helpful if you added an in depth tutorial on each setting or, at the very least a detailed description of each option AND how it works in tandem with other settings. Its great to have the depth of options, but its equally important to understand how they all work.

I'll just say you are 100% correct. As a former community guy though whenever I have the choice of spend more time developing a feature and adding more to it or take that same time and work on a teaching feature it is hard to pull the trigger because as a gamer i want the depth of the feature set first. I figure we have enough hoop genius' in the community to teach it and learn it.

The reality is that every moment spent on instructional tools is a moment less available on adding depth and polish to an actual game-play feature. And some of this stuff takes forever just to do something relatively small in scope.

Plus, and this is a big one. Any teaching feature needs front end support IE menu's and such and that line is ALWAYS backed up and game-play team requests for front end are at the way back of the line. So it is difficult to get the resources lined up in addition to what I said above.

But I hear you and I agree in principal it's just when the going gets tuff I often choose put more cool stuff in the game because at the end of the day I'm a gamer.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smirkin Dirk

Nice. I really wasn't concerned with the amount of double teams just that it was often one pass away and there was no rotation on the weak side. Hopefully this is transferable to 2K18. FWIW I only played with the Clippers, and I rarely dominated with 1 player so would rarely attract double teams. And I saw some defensive AI stuff from ACE that other dudes didnt see. I was loving it; it felt like I was playing a different game to others. Czar can I suggest a short video clarifying some of the defensite settings for 2K18? Even now, there is dispute about what some do. Not the obvious ones, the ones that were added.

Yeah I guess I got to make sure even I understand them first. I was going to do a bunch till I discovered a few didn't work like I thought. Now I'm a little gun shy. LOL!!!

[clinthc0003]

Quote: Originally Posted by Da_Czar

Yeah I guess I got to make sure even I understand them first. I was going to do a bunch till I discovered a few didn't work like I thought. Now I'm a little gun shy. LOL!!!

Oh no... what have I done! Please don't be gunshy!!! LOL.

Hey Czar, one suggestion I have for 2K18 that would make this stuff much easier to figure out would be to put ALL of the settings options we have in the normal games in the scrimmage mode.

Off the top of my head, in the scrimmage mode we don't have the defensive settings and we can't use the defensive packages you guys added this year. If I recall correctly, the offensive options are pretty fleshed out in this mode.

For some weird reason, the defensive options are available in the Practice Plays mode, but not the Scrimmage mode.