New NBA 2K17 Patch: Expanded Dev Notes

[pjt8405]

Quote: Originally Posted by 33JAF

Question about the new tendencies... Are the dribble moves supposed to be nearly all 0's for most players? Obviously the bigs should be this way, but a ton of guards including Kyrie Irving have 0 for everything other than crossover. Is this right or was it an oversight?

A definite oversight I would say. Big update coming Monday or Tuesday Czar said. I would look for everything to be correct then. I know there were issues with copy & pasting.

[pjt8405]

Quote: Originally Posted by vtcrb

Not at XBOX at the moment, but did they actually add New categories that we as Users can edit Or are they just under the hood stuff? Edit: OR did they just do a Tendency Roster uodate?

Tendency Roster Update... Changes only show in today's update. Word is big update fixing many more tendencies is coming Monday or Tuesday. I would wait until then to check it out, but that's just me

[vtcrb]

Quote: Originally Posted by pjt8405

Tendency Roster Update... Changes only show in today's update. Word is big update fixing many more tendencies is coming Monday or Tuesday. I would wait until then to check it out, but that's just me

The changes they are making I have been making since October. Just glad to see maybe 2K18 won't have as much to edit out of the box, if they are using this as a test for it.

[pjt8405]

Quote: Originally Posted by vtcrb

The changes they are making I have been making since October. Just glad to see maybe 2K18 won't have as much to edit out of the box, if they are using this as a test for it.

Exactly. At least they are finally updated and done correctly (minus a few errors that will be fixed per what they said is coming Mon or Tues). I personally think the importance of correct tendencies is undervalued by many users when in fact it is one of the most important factors toward quality gameplay.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by clinthc0003

Hey Czar. We appreciate you coming in to explain this stuff, even though it's so late in the year. I do however think in your video, you are mistaken on how the Help Rules work just like we were earlier in the year. Using your example with Kevin Love: If I set Help Rules to No Help on Love, this means that no one will come to help if Kevin Love beats his man off of the dribble. This does not mean that you will not help off of Kevin Love if say Lebron beats his man off the dribble. It's a "help on this guy" setting, not a "help off of this guy" setting. Here's a post from alabamarob I snatched from the Defensive Settings Wiki we have up. He has a video showing a pretty clear example of how it works. Unless you guys changed something fundamental about how this setting works, it should behave the same way. The reason a lot of the community thinks that setting someone to Deny on Off-Ball Pressure will help prevent helping off a person is it is the closest thing to that kind of control we currently have on the defense since it does put him a position that he will be unlikely to help if his man is on the perimeter. It appears to me that right now we have no way of controlling who we help off of, only who we help on. I look forward to seeing what you can do to help with the defense in 2k18 since you've done a great job with the offenses in the past few years. Thanks!

Well HOTDAM! Thank the lord for my Caveat at the beginning of that video.

Someone popped in a stream and mentioned this post. So I checked with my engineer and It does appear I was incorrect.

First off thank you for understanding and how you handled this.

Ok. so I will pull that video after I post this so I'm not misleading anyone else.

For clarification.

For screen help

No help means there will be no hedger

No rotation means there will be a hedger but no rotation behind him.

The way our pick and roll defense is setup there are 3 roles a helper and to rotations guys so it made sense to me that a setting of no help means whoever that help guy is don't come. I had it flipped Mybad

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baebae32

Czar said another big tendency overhaul was coming Monday. So i say lets wait until then.

We were able to get that next update in this morning to fix the issue with the bad copy paste. SO if you go the roster updated this morning then you have the latest one's.

[ch46647]

You developers do a tremendous job adding a ton of depth to strategic adjustments. However, it would be very helpful if you added an in depth tutorial on each setting or, at the very least a detailed description of each option AND how it works in tandem with other settings.

Its great to have the depth of options, but its equally important to understand how they all work.

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Impetuous65

The problem with that video you posted, is the Defensive AI was horrid and wasn't functioning properly, the Da_Czar is basing his info from the time spent with the Defensive team and learning what some things do and after getting rid of bugs and tunning and tendencies he is free to share his findings.

Appreciate that fam but I indeed had this one incorrect. I though it was based on how the rotation actually work in the pick and roll on the backend. I will do my best to not add any more confusion.