MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Franchise Mode, HDR Confirmed (Archive Available)

[CujoMatty]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bullit

I have been hesitant with the state of the forums lately to share my opinion on all this but I have actually been writing this for a day or so and I think it works they way I intend it to. I, like most of you, have been a fan of The Show for a long time. We each have our own reasons why this game is important to us and those reasons are as varied as the way we play the game. I play Franchise and RTTS exclusively. I have messed with DD and Battle Royale a little bit. But those modes are just not for me. I like collecting the cards and use the equipment in RTTS of course. But I don't care about it's status. I will use a bat because it a Louisville Slugger not because its a Gold or Diamnond. I love these modes and I know I lot of you do too. I play every inning of every game, just like a lot of you as well. What I don't do anymore is play a lot of other games. I reallized about two years ago that I was buying all of these games and I would play The Show and one or two RPG's in the course of a year. That realization has changed the way I do things now. Last year I bought 5 games total and so far this year I have bought one. The Show will be number 2. The Show is my go to game, 2 or 3 games a day, more if I have a day off. This is the way I like to play. Slow and steady, I love when my games take 2 hours and I consider it time well spent. I was super excited for '17 and I guess in a way I still am a bit. I am all for options and I am glad they are a successful developer, they certainly deserve to be. I have the utmost respect for them and their game. They have done things for me personally that are simply amazing. With all of that said. I am not really happy for the direction the game is taking. I am happy for all of the new players, I am happy for The Games success, I happy for the Developers. But I am not happy for me. Every year it seems the game gets a little further away from the game I want it to be and thats fine. Thats the way these things work. I will purchase '17 day one but then I think it is time for a break from the yearly cycle. I usually get about 4-5 years of a franchsie done and I rarely carry over becuase The Show always seemed to give me a reason to want to start over. This year with the additions of AI, lighting, models, uniforms, new park for Atlanta, updates for RTTS etc. I will be starting over again. The difference is this time I think its for good. While I still believe The Show is a good product, it is changing into something that does not interest me. Maybe down the road things will change and I hope they do. But I think I can be content with '17 and let time move on without me. Wish you all the best and see you in the ballparks.

Now this is how you air your grievences. Good post.

[zman2392]

Quote: Originally Posted by boxboy99

Thanks, just curious if there wasn't any real new news today but doesn't sounds like it. Hopefully no issues with carry over saves.

I guess I kind of forgot that HDR got leaked for those with PS4 pro and 4k (I dont so forgot lol!)
Some of the quirks actually effect the game but PCI size only. Some basically just describe the attributes
Also only critical situations on the current teams schedule that you are looking at.
I think thats mainly it

[boxboy99]

Quote: Originally Posted by zman2392

I guess I kind of forgot that HDR got leaked for those with PS4 pro and 4k (I dont so forgot lol!) Some of the quirks actually effect the game but PCI size only. Some basically just describe the attributes Also only critical situations on the current teams schedule that you are looking at. I think thats mainly it

Awesome, thanks. No 4k here Went back to playing on a monitor recently and decided against 4K for now.


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[HypoLuxa13]

Quote: Originally Posted by underdog13

So with the quirks ... Are they only positive ones? I saw the pickoff specialist and I'm wondering if there is a Jon Lester like one.

Hey now, he's been working on one-hopping throws to first base this spring. They figure it is better to make Rizzo dig them out of the dirt than the ball ending up in the stands or in right field.

[CoiaNY]

I'm a nobody, but I'll be pretty frank in saying that I'd personally like to see less gimmicks and more substance. I think its critical that Franchise Mode needs to be the absolute focus on The Show 18.

I'm a Franchise guy. But for the last few years I've found myself excited to buy the show, get OSFM and then.... the excitement flatlines. The fact of the matter is that there's nothing really in Franchise that keeps me coming back for more. Like others have pointed out (and I've said this for years now), its simple things that make the game more immersive for me even if they don't account for much throughout the mode. Such as.. setting ticket prices, adding vendors, being able to re-sod the field, or add more advertising, "placement" of the advertising, being able to change the grass patterns (this visual aspect of the game kept the game FRESH).

Its the ACTUAL "Litte Things" like that, in my opinion, that gave Franchise that little sense of imagination for the user that made it fun when you're not actually playing a game. To have a sense like the whole operation meant something and that you felt like you were making an impact, even though it may have not made any difference whatsoever. I find it mindboggling as to why those little features were removed from the game. I truly do. The Show is known for giving the user options. I'd like to have that back, what would it hurt to have kept it? But I digress. Just my 2 pesos.

Cheers, SDS. You guys do a hell of a job either way.

[Aensland]

Visually, the game is looking really good. And unlike most here, my expectations on getting everything on my wish list checked isn't too high. So I'm left with less disappointment.

However, one minor complaint I have is simmed scoring seems to be too low like the previous year, though that can be remedied with attributes and slider editing. Was just hoping I wouldn't have to rely on band-aid fixes as much this year.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Hmmm...so what did we learn today? SDS has ONE programmer for Franchise Mode and also just one for DD apparently. That seems truly odd. Ah, the cold realities of bottom-line corporate America.

Here are a few quick tidbits I took from the stream...

(1) I think I like the idea of using the Quick Manage feature to babysit my minor league clubs a bit more closely. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. And, although I agree that overall this stream seemed to be a bit of a buzzkill, these new simming options are most definitely major additions and no doubt took some massive work to get in there, code, and test. While you can be nonplussed that other features weren't added (and this list is a long one for lots of us), one can't really claim that these new sim options are minor features while keeping a straight face. One could totally understand how the Quick Manage/Critical Situations stuff kept their one programmer busy for an entire dev cycle.

(2) Since it was explained that quirks essentially only affect the PCI size, this means that quirks won't impact simmed games whatsoever unless there's something I'm missing. So, in a way, those worried about stat imbalances brought on by quirks probably have no reason to be worried. If you wanted the quirks to have a bigger effect, then you might be a bit disappointed by them being tied only to PCI size instead of having a hard-coded effect on player attributes inside and outside of played games.

(3) When they showed off the Joe Smith vs Hyun-Soo Kim Critical Situation matchup, I was a bit disappointed that: (A) the cpu logic let Smith, a righty, face Kim, a lefty with a platoon quirk that gives him an even bigger advantage against RHPs; and (B) in a 2-2 game in the 9th, it would seem like a good spot for potentially bringing a closer in. Albeit, I could understand John Gibbons wanting to save his closer for extra innings...kinda like how Buck Showalter would use Zach Britton, lol.

(4) I didn't really follow the explanation for what the cash flow was added to help with. I'll probably have to play around with it to understand that better. First impression is it seems to be adding a bit of artificial depth in the sense that I'm not sure that it really matters.

(5) The game looks good already and they weren't even playing in HDR mode (confirmed to be in). I am looking forward to seeing the PS4 Pro/4K HDR TV/MLB 17 combination in the flesh....that could be epic visually. That combined with dat ball physics tho...

Quote: Originally Posted by BlacknBlue

... -The play result indicator is way too simplified. I would like more information than lined-out, struck out, single, walk, etc. How about a line showing where the ball was hit and who made the play in the field, etc? Teams track where every ball is hit now to use for their defensive setups and shifts, or even how to pitch a batter based on situations. All of this is moot in this mode, and pretty much within the game in general. ...

Pertaining to the quoted part of your post, I believe Luis mentioned something to the effect that you can get more info by looking at the game log screen. For example, even though in the Quick Manage interface in real time, it'll just say "double" or "line out" or whatever, the game log would say "double down the line" or "lined out to center field, runner out advancing to home" etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

If you're controlling multiple teams and you sim you will get notified of critical situations for the current team you are on in the front end.

Hmmm. I have conflicting opinions about this design.

One the one hand, getting maybe ~15-20 Critical Situation notifications each calendar day for a boatload of different teams would make it get old fast, so just getting into those situations for your "main team" seems appropriate and a better use of gaming time.

On the other hand, it would be cool to be able to toggle which types of Critical Situations you want to be involved in. While the standard "save opportunity" or "walkoff opportunity" that we saw a lot of in this stream might be a bit mundane to jump into for every team in a 30-team control franchise, people would probably want to be involved with really special ones like perfect games, cycles, 3000th hit, 500th HR etc no matter which team that player was on. If you could toggle getting into (or at least being notified about) these truly rare Critical Situations somehow, despite being on a different team's "front end," that would add some nice immersion and breadth to the mode.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by CujoMatty

Now this is how you air your grievences. Good post.

Next will be the feats of strength before we proceed to pointing out Festivus miracles..