MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Gameplay, Animations & Retro-Mode Deep Dive

[ryanmc564]

Quote: Originally Posted by RunN1st

Wait... retro-mode is playable in season and franchise mode? If so, that's huge!

the camera view for retro mode will be available in franchise.

[Impetuous65]

Are they bringing batter pitcher analysis back to the D pad? l8ke it was in 2014. Not that new one with no scouting info

[inkcil]

Gameplay AND Graphics are BOTH important. I really don't understand the "either or" people. For instance, how could anyone enjoy "2017 era gameplay" with "2001 era graphics" or vice versa?

I've said many times that the Show is a game that looked sooo good on PS3, that when I first played it on PS4 back in 2015 I said, "Wow, not a big graphical jump...kinda just a transfer or rollover." And because the Show has taken the "incremental improvement" approach to graphics, 2016 on PS3 vs PS4 is NOT "night and day." Now, my perspective is a fresh one because I only upgraded to the PS4 a few months ago.

So count me among those who both look forward to continued gameplay improvements AND hope desperately that this game steps it up BIG TIME in the graphics department (and SOUND for that matter).

One of my biggest hopes for the gameplay is that perhaps the improved ball physics will make manual fielding truly fun again. IMO, MLB The Show 11 was the funnest game in the series for manual fielding.

[tnixen]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blzer

Just kind of skipping around as I don't have time to watch it all. But around 00:46:30, I saw a backspin line drive hit type that has never been featured in this game before. Outfield throws now have much more weight on them too. Makes me excited to see what else is in store! EDIT: On the "meh" end, corner outfielders still hug the lines far too closely and they all play far too shallow in general. I know they'd have to literally change everything else about this game for that portion to be addressed, but at least different ball physics are in place!

Do you think if they fixed this it would allow those hits down lines into the corner to not be Bang Bang at second base most of the time?

[Artman22]

Quote: Originally Posted by inkcil

Gameplay AND Graphics are BOTH important. I really don't understand the "either or" people. For instance, how could anyone enjoy "2017 era gameplay" with "2001 era graphics" or vice versa? I've said many times that the Show is a game that looked sooo good on PS3, that when I first played it on PS4 back in 2015 I said, "Wow, not a big graphical jump...kinda just a transfer or rollover." And because the Show has taken the "incremental improvement" approach to graphics, 2016 on PS3 vs PS4 is NOT "night and day." Now, my perspective is a fresh one because I only upgraded to the PS4 a few months ago. So count me among those who both look forward to continued gameplay improvements AND hope desperately that this game steps it up BIG TIME in the graphics department (and SOUND for that matter). One of my biggest hopes for the gameplay is that perhaps the improved ball physics will make manual fielding truly fun again. IMO, MLB The Show 11 was the funnest game in the series for manual fielding.

This has been my argument as well. I was blown away at how good the show looked on the PS3. No other sports game looked as good, but that changed on the PS4. I've read people say "some have unrealistic expectations" and "the PS4 isn't that strong" but other sports games on the PS4 have sort of left Mlb the show behind graphically speaking. To me MLB the show is gameplay king, but I wish MLB would be better graphically. Some people like me care a lot about graphics. I have a 4k HDR tv and bought a pro because I'd like to experience my PlayStation games in the best possible way they can look. Also, by no means am I saying the graphics are bad at all. I'm just saying they could be better..


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[dubcity]

Here's hoping that "Grass Tech" will actually vastly improve the grass compared to what it looked like on this stream. Needs to look better on gameplay cam, not just on zoomed in replays.

[breakfastcat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Artman22

This has been my argument as well. I was blown away at how good the show looked on the PS3. No other sports game looked as good, but that changed on the PS4. I've read people say "some have unrealistic expectations" and "the PS4 isn't that strong" but other sports games on the PS4 have sort of left Mlb the show behind graphically speaking. To me MLB the show is gameplay king, but I wish MLB would be better graphically. Some people like me care a lot about graphics. I have a 4k HDR tv and bought a pro because I'd like to experience my PlayStation games in the best possible way they can look. Also, by no means am I saying the graphics are bad at all. I'm just saying they could be better..

This is my feelings exactly. A lot of people here will tell you the graphics are "good enough" and that gameplay is more important. And, while that's not wrong in any way, one could also say the gameplay is "good enough" already as well, but people still want big improvements in that area and no one bats an eye, which is great. Yet the people who mention they want big graphical jump are sometimes met with condescending remarks that graphics don't matter, which is a ridiculous statement since what matters is subjective from person to person.

From my perspective, the gameplay is great and has been great for years, and every year I hope for the graphics to get to that same level on current gen hardware (like they did on ps3) but it so far hasn't gotten to that level yet IMO.

Now I'm not going to judge The Show 17 until its in my hands, but this first stream has left me a little unsatisfied since the game to me looks almost identical to last year. I know they are going to add more graphical enhancements in the next month, but I've been watching the streams since they started 3 years ago, and early streams never really looked all that much different graphically from the finished product. So I can't say I feel incredibly optimistic that The Show 17 will have some huge graphical bump in the next two months. I would love to be proven wrong. If I was told that the improved player models and new grass tech were not in this build at all, I would probably be more optimistic about the graphics.

[NEOPARADIGM]

game-pacing (specifically auto-skipping whatever remains of real-time presentation, catcher throwing the ball back to the pitcher, batter stepping out and preparing for the next pitch, etc.) seems worse than ever. like if there's not a pitch every 2.6 seconds it just can't be fun. foh. baseball has a very specific pace that allows for contemplation, reflection & strategy-mining between pitches. will not buy if it's yet another year where this is totally ignored.