MLB The Show 17 - Behind the Scenes "Playing Out of Position" Changes

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

One of the programmers was kind enough to add a few new combinations into the editor today. • 2B/3B/SS • 2B/3B • SS/3B • OF/1B P.S. this isn't an invitation to ask for more changes in this area.

Thanks! You guys are great at responding to your customers and doing what you can, as always. We appreciate it and please send our thanks to your kind programmer. These changes will make it so guys that play all INF positions except 1B can be properly edited. It'll also help out with corner guys--1B/3B/LF/RF types.

I wouldn't have the audacity to ask for more changes in this area given how generously you've offered these extra improvements already, but LF/RF and LF/CF would also be great adds (instead of just a blanket OF designation) for secondary slots. We're seeing more and more guys that can do 3B/LF/RF (Kris Bryant for example) and 1B/LF/RF (Mark Trumbo). Also some guys who do 2B/SS/CF/LF. Some guys don't have the range for CF or the arm for RF so OF wouldn't be fully accurate.

I'm not exactly sure if guys get penalized for playing CF if they only have LF or RF, for example, but maybe someone can chime in there. If there are no out-of-position penalties for outfielders playing 'other' OF spots, then having the LF/CF or LF/RF options wouldn't really matter anyway.

[Caulfield]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

One of the programmers was kind enough to add a few new combinations into the editor today. • 2B/3B/SS • 2B/3B • SS/3B • OF/1B P.S. this isn't an invitation to ask for more changes in this area.

Nominate that programmer for Employee of the Year, that fixes 90% of my issues in this area.
Thanks Mr. Russell!

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[bxphenom7]

Would be cool to be able to have a player learn a new position as well.

[Culture Rot]

Thanks for this, it makes a real difference

[gamer052001]

Great news on all changes!

Will there be a way to select secondary positions for pitchers? In the past guys like Jason Lane were given OF for secondary position, but we could not edit to add for other pitchers. I'm thinking of Travis Wood, Jordan Schafer, Christian Bethancourt, and even Shohei Otani as a CAP.

[tessl]

If I was going to offer a suggestion to Russell and his fellow developers regarding secondary positions it would be to have a more significant penalty for secondary position at which he player only played a tiny percentage of games at.

For example in 2016 Wil Myers played 149 games at 1B, 7 games in RF, 3 games in LF and 1 game at 3B. Myers has play OF in 2015 and 2014 and is a competent outfielder but if he gets 3B as a secondary position with a small penalty for secondary position he would probably be as good defensively as many everyday third basemen which isn't realistic because Myers has only played less than 1% of games at 3B.

I'm not sure what the penalty should be or what percentage of games he should have to play at a certain position but I'm confident the developers could brainstorm that and come up with a realistic solution.

Not a huge issue and it might be too late to get in this year's game but it would add realism.

[Caulfield]

Quote: Originally Posted by tessl

If I was going to offer a suggestion to Russell and his fellow developers regarding secondary positions it would be to have a more significant penalty for secondary position at which he player only played a tiny percentage of games at. For example in 2016 Wil Myers played 149 games at 1B, 7 games in RF, 3 games in LF and 1 game at 3B. Myers has play OF in 2015 and 2014 and is a competent outfielder but if he gets 3B as a secondary position with a small penalty for secondary position he would probably be as good defensively as many everyday third basemen which isn't realistic because Myers has only played less than 1% of games at 3B. I'm not sure what the penalty should be or what percentage of games he should have to play at a certain position but I'm confident the developers could brainstorm that and come up with a realistic solution. Not a huge issue and it might be too late to get in this year's game but it would add realism.

The thing is playing more games in and of itself doesnt make you better at a position.
Somebody like SS/3B Jonathan Villar (11 games at 2B) should be able to play 2B better and be higher rated than someone like, say, 1B/3B Matt Carpenter (40 games at 2B).
Also, when the community creates historical (or even OSFM) roster, I dont know if a formula could translate well. But still, it would at least be something worth the dev's brainstorming to see if its feasible.

[Bobhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by tessl

If I was going to offer a suggestion to Russell and his fellow developers regarding secondary positions it would be to have a more significant penalty for secondary position at which he player only played a tiny percentage of games at. For example in 2016 Wil Myers played 149 games at 1B, 7 games in RF, 3 games in LF and 1 game at 3B. Myers has play OF in 2015 and 2014 and is a competent outfielder but if he gets 3B as a secondary position with a small penalty for secondary position he would probably be as good defensively as many everyday third basemen which isn't realistic because Myers has only played less than 1% of games at 3B. I'm not sure what the penalty should be or what percentage of games he should have to play at a certain position but I'm confident the developers could brainstorm that and come up with a realistic solution. Not a huge issue and it might be too late to get in this year's game but it would add realism.

Well in this scenario, based on SCEA's new system, Myers would simply not have 3B as an official secondary position in The Show. Then he'd have the 1B -> 3B transition penalty which would accomplish the lesser skill level you are looking for.

Maybe they can differentiate between positions a player can be placed at (eg: Myers at third) and actual secondary positions where the player is actually comfortable.