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Old 01-31-2017, 05:43 PM   #9
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Glad your thinking about this sort of thing. Any chance of adding a feature in Franchise to teach players new secondary positions or change a secondary to be their primary? As this seems like it would fit in perfectly with it (I know you can just use edit mode, but that always feels a bit like cheating)
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Old 01-31-2017, 05:48 PM   #10
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A couple of things after reading the above post...

First off, thanks for posting that info!

1. I agree with p00p above that showing us the calculated fielding ratings sorted by position on the player's card would be a big deal for us. With seeing the numbers (like those in lead programmer Jeff's message), we could really mull over the pros and cons of moving guys around or not. Have the game calculate and display these 'hidden' fielding ratings so we don't have to slog through that math for every player and positional combo.

2. We still need more flexibility when creating players and adjusting their secondary positions. There are some exotic combinations that we just can't enter into the game the way it's currently set up. As you guys tinker with positions, my suggestion would be to allow us to give a player any number/combination of secondary positions, not just 2B/SS, 1B/3B etc. More a la carte. There are many guys who have value simply because they can Zobrist their way around the diamond in a way that the game doesn't currently allow us to fully replicate.
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Old 01-31-2017, 05:49 PM   #11
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I think the biggest help would be to dynamically show the player's attributes on the substitution/lineup screen, based on their current defensive position. So if I think it might be a good idea for Buster Posey to play OF, show me on the substitution screen the affect it will have to his defensive ratings. Either with new numbers or if you are keeping the graphical displays, show how much of a hit he would be taking.

Otherwise, any changes to attributes are kind of lost and the only real reminder are the oop animations.
We want that too but there just isn't enough time to add that new logic and functionality into all of those screens.
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Old 01-31-2017, 06:30 PM   #12
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Russel, I have a couple quick questions. Will the left handed penalties apply at all to lefty infielders in RTTS? Additionally, if I made a DD player a lefty shortstop by assigning him to that role, would he incur any penalty?

I decided to make a left-handed shortstop for fun in RTTS just to see how it would play so I'm curious how he would be affected under the new system and if I receive any penalty under the old. Granted, he's technically playing in his position but with the "wrong" handedness so perhaps there's no penalty at all under the old system but for the lefty animations.
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We want that too but there just isn't enough time to add that new logic and functionality into all of those screens.
Too bad, hope to see it some day. Would also be helpful for players who take a hit based on fatigue.
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Too bad, hope to see it some day. Would also be helpful for players who take a hit based on fatigue.
Players already take attribute hits when they are playing fatigued.
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Russel, I have a couple quick questions. Will the left handed penalties apply at all to lefty infielders in RTTS? Additionally, if I made a DD player a lefty shortstop by assigning him to that role, would he incur any penalty?

I decided to make a left-handed shortstop for fun in RTTS just to see how it would play so I'm curious how he would be affected under the new system and if I receive any penalty under the old. Granted, he's technically playing in his position but with the "wrong" handedness so perhaps there's no penalty at all under the old system but for the lefty animations.
I'm not sure ask on the stream next week.
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:17 PM   #16
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The developers probably already know this and don't do it for a valid reason but High Heat allowed you to get a player eligible at a position by putting him at a position in milb. Over the course of IIRC 3 years he would become fully eligible at that position if you left him there in the minors.

The upside was you got a young prospect eligible at a new position, something which does happen IRL.

The downside - and possibly why the Show hasn't implemented it - you could get a guy with Mark McGwire's physique and attributes eligible to play as a serviceable shortstop.

If there was a way to program around the obvious downside of High Heat's system this could be an improvement.
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