MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

[TripleCrown9]

Quote: Originally Posted by P.A.D.

Agree with everything said in the last few posts. They added this retro mode to compete with the RBI baseball fans and no other reason. At this point it seems they're somewhat ignoring the requests of their loyal fanbase and adding gimmicks to increase their demographic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No other reason? Absolutely no other reason? It has nothing to do with them adding their cover athlete, and the immense success and popularity of his game?

[TattooedEvil]

Let's try to remember that the blogs and twitch streams didn't even start til Feb 4th for the MLBTS16 so just be patient. Very tough I know.

[Jolly Roger]

Every iteration of The Show is always a solid game. Let's just hope a mode that makes the game play like it's a 16-bit cartridge from over 20 years ago isn't the biggest feature of 17

[PsychoBulk]

Hello folks.

Been away from here for some time for personal reasons and being worn out with the game somewhat.

Was hoping for something a little new, a little different etc this year...very disappointed with this trailer (be it one minute or not, some things never change).

A lot of you know me, i've been on here years, im not a moaner for moaning sake, im not here to bash the devs or anybody personally, but this game is in serious need of a facelift, a revamp, call it what you will, and I dont mean just tacking on an arcadey mode etc, you know what i mean.

Anemic is exactly the type of word i'd use to describe this franchise at the moment.

Anemic, stale, stagnant, faded - call it what you will.

I'm not judging '17 by this one video of course not, im more talking about the general way the series has gone the last few years. I truly believe you could play any of the games from 2013, '14 and '15 and '16 and be hard pressed to convince a naysayer they really were different games. Great games yes, but, like i said, stale, etc.

Ill keep my hopes up for something a little fresher as the information about '17 starts to come out but as i said previously, my enthusiasm for this games release used to be rampant yearly, now its merely more than a passing interest and that's a great shame.

Don't get me wrong, it will still be a superb game with many, many more pro's than con's but it simply cannot shake off this stale feeling, as far as im concerned.

I dont expect a different looking game every year, it would be stupid to do so, it's the same developer after all, but when so many things go largely untouched for year after year such as commentary, franchise, even the same signature music for like, ever, then you start to compare it to the strides made in other areas of sports gaming such as NBA 2K, FIFA, Madden etc then yes, then it starts to make you wonder why you keep coming back and why '16 feels like '15 feels like '14 feels like '13 etc.

I repeat, it will be a great game, but times change and its simply my opinion that SCEA doesnt move fast enough with them.

I used to pre-order this game months in advance, look forward to it like nothing else all year, take a whole week off work just to play it on release week...those days are long gone.

This is without doubt the first year ill almost certainly not be buying and i think its telling the posts mirroring my feelings seem to have garnered as many likes if not more generally than those saying otherwise - i think this worm has finally turned.

Dont ever take your loyal customers for granted in business - and i think SCEA is in danger of doing just that.

Shame indeed.

[PhilliesFan13]

Quote: Originally Posted by PsychoBulk

Hello folks. Been away from here for some time for personal reasons and being worn out with the game somewhat. Was hoping for something a little new, a little different etc this year...very disappointed with this trailer (be it one minute or not, some things never change). A lot of you know me, i've been on here years, im not a moaner for moaning sake, im not here to bash the devs or anybody personally, but this game is in serious need of a facelift, a revamp, call it what you will, and I dont mean just tacking on an arcadey mode etc, you know what i mean. Anemic is exactly the type of word i'd use to describe this franchise at the moment. Anemic, stale, stagnant, faded - call it what you will. I'm not judging '17 by this one video of course not, im more talking about the general way the series has gone the last few years. I truly believe you could play any of the games from 2013, '14 and '15 and '16 and be hard pressed to convince a naysayer they really were different games. Great games yes, but, like i said, stale, etc. Ill keep my hopes up for something a little fresher as the information about '17 starts to come out but as i said previously, my enthusiasm for this games release used to be rampant yearly, now its merely more than a passing interest and that's a great shame. Don't get me wrong, it will still be a superb game with many, many more pro's than con's but it simply cannot shake off this stale feeling, as far as im concerned. I dont expect a different looking game every year, it would be stupid to do so, it's the same developer after all, but when so many things go largely untouched for year after year such as commentary, franchise, even the same signature music for like, ever, then you start to compare it to the strides made in other areas of sports gaming such as NBA 2K, FIFA, Madden etc then yes, then it starts to make you wonder why you keep coming back and why '16 feels like '15 feels like '14 feels like '13 etc. I repeat, it will be a great game, but times change and its simply my opinion that SCEA doesnt move fast enough with them. I used to pre-order this game months in advance, look forward to it like nothing else all year, take a whole week off work just to play it on release week...those days are long gone. This is without doubt the first year ill almost certainly not be buying and i think its telling the posts mirroring my feelings seem to have garnered as many likes if not more generally than those saying otherwise - i think this worm has finally turned. Dont ever take your loyal customers for granted in business - and i think SCEA is in danger of doing just that. Shame indeed.

Now this is a great example of how to present constructive criticism without coming off as arrogant or entitled. Breath of fresh air.

Hopefully as new info is released, you do decide to get the game and enjoy it. A lot of people will miss your slider sets.

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[Bullit]

Hey Psycho,

Bet you a pint that you change your mind and pick it up....

[PsychoBulk]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bullit

Hey Psycho, Bet you a pint that you change your mind and pick it up....

Honestly my friend this time, i dont think i will.

Succumbed last year then only a few months in wondered why, told myself not to fall for it again, should it be the almost the same game.

Ill take that bet

[speels]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhilliesFan13

Now this is a great example of how to present constructive criticism without coming off as arrogant or entitled. Breath of fresh air. Hopefully as new info is released, you do decide to get the game and enjoy it. A lot of people will miss your slider sets. Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

I kind of agree and kind of disagree with your first statement. Yes it comes across as neither arrogant or entitled, however it is not really constructive criticism. Psycho states there are things that go untouched each year, but he doesn't really say what can make them better.

I understand more and varied commentary would make the game seem fresher and such, but the one thing we don't know is the limits they have to work within. Maybe it costs $100,000 to get someone in the studio to record some lines. I also think that sometimes we forget that an announcer at a live sporting event has unlimited access to the entire english language and can make comments right out of thin air when a game is very limited.

For franchise what needs to change? What is he looking for that will keep him engaged? I can say I don't like something but if I don't state what would make it better then really all I am doing is criticizing, not constructively criticizing.

As for music, I don't listen to it so it doesn't bother me at all. Now again, we have 50% of people in this scenario (1 and 1) that have absolutely different opinions about this specific area. So as a developer where do you draw your line? It may come down to cost as they already have paid for the rights to the songs or perhaps it is an area they don't think they need to focus on. This is where they have to determine costs and benefits in order to make the most money for them because that is really what it is all about. I would also argue that both Psycho and myself are what you could call "hard core" players, so now which if they change the music are they against a "hard core" guy or if they don't are they also against a "hard core" guy.

Now I am not saying that Psycho is right or wrong. He purchased the game and has every right to want what he wants. All I am saying is the devs need to here a why or a how not just a what. I love this game, it is one I continue to play year round, which I don't say about any other game, but there is definitely room for improvement, areas of which I have discussed in other threads.

The one thing I do wish for, and I know that it would never happen because it may come across as a sign of weakness or such, is that the devs explained sometimes why things maybe can't be changed at times, or why something may never (at this time) be implemented. Such as maybe why they can't have 20,000 new lines of commentary each year or why they don't change the music.

One last thing, as for the same old game comments. Baseball is baseball. Each year 25 players from 2 teams play on the same fields doing the same things. You can't change things every year to make it fresh when it really is the same thing. Unlike any other game but sports games, you can't change a location or colour scheme and have a "brand new game". Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine.