Madden NFL 17 Title Update #8 Available Now, Here Are The Details

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by BadAssHskr

Ask him if it behooves a cfm only guy to play a pre tuner ootb version of the game for a more simulation experience.

Looks like he is logged out of Twitter, he hasn't answered a question in 45 minutes.

[CleveCluby]

So a month ago, He tweeted the punt issue was fixed, Then it was left out of the 7 patch, then the 8 patch, and now they are still working on it and don't know if there is going to be another PATCH FOR THIS. But it sure didn't take them long to fix the OL issues.. Did it. ?? What a bunch of crap.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by CleveCluby

So a month ago, He tweeted the punt issue was fixed, Then it was left out of the 7 patch, then the 8 patch, and now they are still working on it and don't know if there is going to be another PATCH FOR THIS. But it sure didn't take them long to fix the OL issues.. Did it. ?? What a bunch of crap.

That's appears to be the reality of some gamer's looking inside of a software company and I don't blame them.

We just don't know the other side of what goes on inside that building, but we do receive some perspective from someone that does work in the software industry and he already gave his response in this thread.

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by BadAssHskr

Ask him if it behooves a cfm only guy to play a pre tuner ootb version of the game for a more simulation experience.

I have the game on two systems and checked out OOTB game play on XBONE after not having looked at it in a while, and I can see a strong argument for XBONE players going to OOTB. You have much tighter defense for HUM and CPU, better tackling animations, better OL/DL interactions, better WR/DB play, better fatigue and rotations, etc. You even have generally better CPU QB AI.

But in fairness to Clint or whomever, how are they supposed to answer a question like that? To say yes is to admit failure, and to say no is to tell a partial truth at best. There's really no way to respond to that question that's a win for EA.

I agree with what you're insinuating, but I can't see them addressing that question head-on in an honest way.

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

A couple of updates from Clint on Twitter: JayD asked him about the FGA and or the slider and Clint stated no fixes for this Madden and hope for the future: We've been pretty open about our desire for different sets of tuning data for online/offline I asked him about the punt glitch, the answer was, still working on it, and they don't know about any future title updates right now. He is answering questions on Twitter as I write this.

When he said "What's that?" in reply to your first question about the punt glitch I almost fainted from shock.

Maybe they'll be a patch in Jan or Feb that unexpectedly addresses these issues, but I have to say that I think that the gameplay issues of the User vs CPU CFM gamer may be off the M17 continuous development docket.

I know that because of the gameplay rollbacks to accommodate the competitive community many of our brethren have soured on buying M18, but I feel like they are enough people inside of the team and connected to the team that know that going forward there has to design options added to keep our corner of the community from being held hostage by the wishes of the tournament scene.

We'll see what they talk about in the developer stream on Friday, but I know that going forward, I'm going to continue to respectfully remind them of the the gameplay elements that were tuned down over the last two years that hurt the product in term of football authenticity.

Others will disagree, but I feel like the concessions of 16 and 17 may work out better for us in the long run. Before, they may have thought that one size fits all gameplay was viable, but they have to know now that it's not.

[JoshC1977]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

But in fairness to Clint or whomever, how are they supposed to answer a question like that? To say yes is to admit failure, and to say no is to tell a partial truth at best. There's really no way to respond to that question that's a win for EA. I agree with what you're insinuating, but I can't see them addressing that question head-on in an honest way.

Agreed...and if he were to answer that head-on in an honest way, he'd be looking for a new job the next day. You don't undermine your company on social media, period.

I work for a pharma company and if I were to say something like, "Yeah, our product doesn't do what we claim it does" on social media....I'd be marched out the door in a heartbeat....and rightfully so.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

When he said "What's that?" in reply to your first question about the punt glitch I almost fainted from shock. Maybe they'll be a patch in Jan or Feb that unexpectedly addresses these issues, but I have to say that I think that the gameplay issues of the User vs CPU CFM gamer may be off the M17 continuous development docket. I know that because of the gameplay rollbacks to accommodate the competitive community many of our brethren have soured on buying M18, but I feel like they are enough people inside of the team and connected to the team that know that going forward there has to design options added to keep our corner of the community from being held hostage by the wishes of the tournament scene. We'll see what they talk about in the developer stream on Friday, but I know that going forward, I'm going to continue to respectfully remind them of the the gameplay elements that were tuned down over the last two years that hurt the product in term of football authenticity. Others will disagree, but I feel like the concessions of 16 and 17 may work out better for us in the long run. Before, they may have thought that one size fits all gameplay was viable, but they have to know now that it's not.

I concur about the state of shock in the beginning of my tweet regarding Clint's response, but I think we have to remind ourselves he's answering tweets at 9pm or so in the evening after working a day at work, I presume. I didn't see much of him on Twitter during the day.

I couldn't agree with you more. I have to sit back and think that maybe they(the developers) feel that the online/offline will be segregated in the next Madden, so, why put in a temporary fix for Madden 17 when we will be gutting it out soon.

That's why I didn't feel inclined to ask him about the QBA slider.

[coach422001]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoshC1977

Agreed...and if he were to answer that head-on in an honest way, he'd be looking for a new job the next day. You don't undermine your company on social media, period. I work for a pharma company and if I were to say something like, "Yeah, our product doesn't do what we claim it does" on social media....I'd be marched out the door in a heartbeat....and rightfully so.

JoshC:
That's funny I also work for a pharma company and we actually have mandatory social media training that has just been implemented for these reasons.