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Old 12-06-2016, 04:25 PM   #313
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Re: MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

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The day before they announced this cover for the 2017 I guaranteed myself they will finally put retro teams in the next game after releasing a cover with Ken Griffey Jr on it I'm sure retro teams will be on the way. Plus adding Old Yankee stadium, alot of classic Yankee teams played there. It's pretty obvious to me why Griffey is on the cover, They just haven't announced it.
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I am like you. I want to believe your right. But with each passing day, and actual announcements of 'Throw Back Pause Menu's', i lose hope we will get anything of substance. In terms of actual game content, I believe that is all we get. In terms of micro transaction stuff, we might get some more retro players, like there were last year. But nothing shock and awe that will make us retro fans sit up and take notice and demand our money. In the week since that last announcement and trailer reveal, its like a balloon deflated a lot of fan interest and optimism in this years game that some had after the Griffey cover. At the end of the day, a cover athlete is just a cover athlete.
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Old 12-06-2016, 04:41 PM   #314
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Re: MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

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The day before they announced this cover for the 2017 I guaranteed myself they will finally put retro teams in the next game after releasing a cover with Ken Griffey Jr on it I'm sure retro teams will be on the way. Plus adding Old Yankee stadium, alot of classic Yankee teams played there. It's pretty obvious to me why Griffey is on the cover, They just haven't announced it..

It's a good addition, I always like using individual players on this game so controlling players from history like Pete Rose, Craig Biggio, Pedro Martinez again would be a useful addition even more than classic NBA and NFL teams.
All they can do is add more Classic players a few each year...because they have to negotiate 1 on 1 with the player or their estate to get permission (and pay them) to put their name and likeness in the game.

This is why you will never see full classic teams in the game anymore. You are not going to see the game released with, let's say, the 1961 Yankees, 1967 Red Sox, 1975 Reds, etc. They can't because they players are no longer part of the MLBPA and would have to be negotiated 1 on 1 for all players that were on those teams.

So you will see additional oldtime players added as Legends...but for full teams from the past we will still have to rely on the dedicated and talented roster makers here.

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When NBA 2K did this with Jordan it made sense because 2K has classic teams (a lot of them). I do not see the purpose or marketing behind Griffey being in the game or on the cover. What am I supposed to do with him? I don't play DD so his existence is completely irrelevant. Rather than waste time on gimmicks because let's be honest, this Griffey thing is a gimmick, why not address the things that your "real" fan base is asking for. Franchise mode improvements, player models, commentary etc. Gimmicks might bring in a few casual fans but you'll end up losing your hardcore fan base if you keep neglecting them.
Franchise players aren't any more "real" than online players.

Again, Griffey was the most requested DD player by far. Hardly a gimmick.
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Old 12-06-2016, 05:20 PM   #316
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All they can do is add more Classic players a few each year...because they have to negotiate 1 on 1 with the player or their estate to get permission (and pay them) to put their name and likeness in the game.

This is why you will never see full classic teams in the game anymore. You are not going to see the game released with, let's say, the 1961 Yankees, 1967 Red Sox, 1975 Reds, etc. They can't because they players are no longer part of the MLBPA and would have to be negotiated 1 on 1 for all players that were on those teams.

So you will see additional oldtime players added as Legends...but for full teams from the past we will still have to rely on the dedicated and talented roster makers here.

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Yeah there isn't any way they can afford to add historic teams. Well not enough teams to interest players.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:49 PM   #317
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To be fair, the first thing you mentioned is commentary, which is an area of 17 we have no clue about based on this trailer, so maybe there's a good chance they have something in store to reveal on that front later on. We can only hope.

I defintiely agree with your list and would love to see all that implemented as well.
The one minute trailer confirms the engine and player models are the same. The known additions are NB cleats, jersey wrinkles, R.B.I. Baseball mode and Ken Griffey Jr. Not exactly the same reaction as when I watched the Cubs win the World Series. I realize that Griffey and the DD mode brings in additional revenue, fine. If franchise mode isn't their focus and a revamped commentary is not implemented this year, It's not for me. I can't even listen to Matt Vasgersian when he's on the MLB Network anymore. If sales start to dip however, I stated my peace on why I am no longer a customer. If there isn't any competition, wouldn't it make sense to show something interesting so that people would actually want to preorder it? Just a rhetorical question. I'm not going to check back on this thread any longer. It's unfortunate that many of you are content with the status quo.
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I think one thing people seem to forget sometimes is that many more people than just the OS community buy this game. They have to cater to everyone. Not just us.

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Hmm, I think the real problem then lies with the non-OS crowd. They just have to be more like us.
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All they can do is add more Classic players a few each year...because they have to negotiate 1 on 1 with the player or their estate to get permission (and pay them) to put their name and likeness in the game.

This is why you will never see full classic teams in the game anymore. You are not going to see the game released with, let's say, the 1961 Yankees, 1967 Red Sox, 1975 Reds, etc. They can't because they players are no longer part of the MLBPA and would have to be negotiated 1 on 1 for all players that were on those teams.

So you will see additional oldtime players added as Legends...but for full teams from the past we will still have to rely on the dedicated and talented roster makers here.

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Franchise players aren't any more "real" than online players.

Again, Griffey was the most requested DD player by far. Hardly a gimmick.
Definitely disagree with you. Franchise modes have been around for two decades and most of us who have been around for long enough remember that mode as the bread and butter of sports gaming. Online gaming is a recent phenomenon. Although "real" is probably not a good term for me to use, "original" would probably be more accurate.
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