MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

[Culture Rot]

Quote: Originally Posted by crandolph

Retro Mode!!! Gonna be able to complete a 9 inning game in 20 minutes. Love it....All you young'ns need to go buy a Super Nintendo and play Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball (1994) to prep for the Retro Mode.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think us retro fans want a replication of Retro BASEBALL, in a modern next gen game, not Retro Baseball Video Games from 20 years ago. If I wanted to play that, I'd play that game. I hope I am overreacting and there is A LOT more to the retro features or mode in this game. Can someone please confirm I'm overreacting?

[Blzer]

Quote: Originally Posted by xlatinoheatx

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think us retro fans want a replication of Retro BASEBALL, in a modern next gen game, not Retro Baseball Video Games from 20 years ago. If I wanted to play that, I'd play that game. I hope I am overreacting and there is A LOT more to the retro features or mode in this game. Can someone please confirm I'm overreacting?

I'd still play that game if I could update rosters and have a franchise mode. Not necessarily above other games, but I wouldn't change much about that version of that game.

Loved most all mechanics about that game, even defenders running fast and knocking over guys on offense.

Almost forgot you couldn't run in that game except for right to bases lol.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

They have indeed, and yes it seems a large % of OS hasn't been able to see the big picture for a very long time.

Maybe so, but your company is better off for the "little picture" scrutiny it gets from sites like OS. I can't say I approve of the abuse and non-factual assessments of the games (a roster update? lol, no), but it's a good relationship with many of the hardcore OS members serving as an unpaid extension of your dev team. Community Day, which I've never participated in, is a good example of that.

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

In terms of release date it's not that close at all, this is the first bit of info they've shared. The marketing will milk the next couple months for all it's worth, we're far from seeing even the most pertinent information. This was just a bait trailer for now and for many it worked probably better than they could have hoped for.

The issue here is that marketing wants teasers and trailers and to ratchet up the hype to 11, but that requires showing off unfinished product. And that leads to a lot of the "this looks the same as 16!" type of statements. In a way, it's Sony's own marketing arm that puts their devs in this position while trying to build pre-orders for the holidays and stay relevant in the off season.

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

Me: You could just tell them............ Me to Me: Naw they can wait for the rewind Me: You know they are going to ask when it's coming right? Me to me: Did I stutter?

I have no idea what's happening here or if Ramone finally snapped, but I like it.

[jeffy777]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor and Sword

16 blows away 14 in so many ways. Too many to list. Just too many. But the ball physics, hit variety, far better fielding controls, and plethora of better animations alone smoke 14. Couple in a better feature set in Franchise mode with a very cool player morale system, a much more streamlined user interface, far easier contract resigning, and expanded stat tracking, radio show with scores and game stories around the league in the franchise menu (implemented in MLB 15 and made better in 16) as you look through stat's, scout and set lineups etc.....if your a hardcore baseball console gamer 16 is the best baseball game yet. IMO The Show continually improves year to year in so many little ways that is add's up to a better experience. I have not gone back to past games since the jump to the PS4. But most importantly, IMO they have such a passionate and transparent development team who truly listens to our feedback and tries to make a game that is well balanced, feature rich and incredibly fun to play. Just sit tight and pick up MLB 17. It will be a huge jump for you.....trust me.

Awesome. Thanks for clearing that up, everyone. I definitely would've gotten 16, but just didn't have enough time on my hands to do it justice. However, that changes come March, so I'm very hyped up for 17

[jeffy777]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

Me: You could just tell them............ Me to Me: Naw they can wait for the rewind Me: You know they are going to ask when it's coming right? Me to me: Did I stutter?

Do tell!

[buck135]

Quote: Originally Posted by Turbojugend

Not even close to true. I just looked up the feature lists in 15 and 16 to list the ones I can't remember (off the top of my head: PBR, Human IK, seasonal sun and shadows, licensed equipment, directional hitting, classic ballparks, Showtime, complete DD overhaul with Battle Royale and Conquest, etc.) and the complete lists are too extensive to quote here. Anyone who tells you the last two games were roster updates hasn't been paying attention.

I challenge anyone to pull up YouTube gameplay of any of the past three PS4 versions and tell me that the differences have been overly noticable from year to year. Collecting digital baseball cards, dynamic lighting and Matrix slo mo doesn’t impress me. All of the classic ballparks have already been created and recycled from the PS3 build. Show me the old Yankee Stadium with the Ballantine scoreboard and I'll get excited.

I bought the last three games day one, so I can express a little frustration here with this years huge addition of R.B.I. Baseball mode and NB cleats. What this game desperately needs is a commentary system similar to what Madden has. You don't need Joe Buck or Harold Reynolds. This will help the grind of the 162 game schedule. The regular season games need to feel unique (like the NBA 2K series). The menus absolutely have to be improved. Roster management (scouting, minors, etc.) needs work as does the AI of the computer controlled teams. This isn't wishlist stuff here. Rain delays and better crowd animations are.

I'd love real sponsors (Citgo anyone?) and classic teams, but I understand the financial hurdles there. I am not interested in individual classic players. I don't want to integrate Jason Giambi with my Nationals franchise. I also don't give a fig about Ken Griffey Jr. The money Sony gave him could have been better spent elsewhere. Speaking of which, can the menu soundtracks be dropped?

Yes, it's a one minute trailer with pre-beta footage. However, when has the final build ever looked significantly better? Another member asked why with three months to go is there little information about this game. It's a great question. They have no competition. What little they did have (R.B.I. Baseball) has been addressed.

I want this series to evolve. Even NHL is making tremendous strides though after that catastrophe two years ago, there's nowhere to go but up. NBA 2K is a benchmark and Madden is excellent. Singing Sony's praises every year isn't going to change anything. Jersey wrinkles aren't ground breaking.

[jeffy777]

Quote: Originally Posted by buck135

I challenge anyone to pull up YouTube gameplay of any of the past three PS4 versions and tell me that the differences have been overly noticable from year to year. Collecting digital baseball cards, dynamic lighting and Matrix slo mo doesn’t impress me. All of the classic ballparks have already been created and recycled from the PS3 build. Show me the old Yankee Stadium with the Ballantine scoreboard and I'll get excited. I bought the last three games day one, so I can express a little frustration here with this years huge addition of R.B.I. Baseball mode and NB cleats. What this game desperately needs is a commentary system similar to what Madden has. You don't need Joe Buck or Harold Reynolds. This will help the grind of the 162 game schedule. The regular season games need to feel unique (like the NBA 2K series). The menus absolutely have to be improved. Roster management (scouting, minors, etc.) needs work as does the AI of the computer controlled teams. This isn't wishlist stuff here. Rain delays and better crowd animations are. I'd love real sponsors (Citgo anyone?) and classic teams, but I understand the financial hurdles there. I am not interested in individual classic players. I don't want to integrate Jason Giambi with my Nationals franchise. I also don't give a fig about Ken Griffey Jr. The money Sony gave him could have been better spent elsewhere. Speaking of which, can the menu soundtracks be dropped? Yes, it's a one minute trailer with pre-beta footage. However, when has the final build ever looked significantly better? Another member asked why with three months to go is there little information about this game. It's a great question. They have no competition. What little they did have (R.B.I. Baseball) has been addressed. I want this series to evolve. Even NHL is making tremendous strides though after that catastrophe two years ago, there's nowhere to go but up. NBA 2K is a benchmark and Madden is excellent. Singing Sony's praises every year isn't going to change anything. Jersey wrinkles aren't ground breaking.

To be fair, the first thing you mentioned is commentary, which is an area of 17 we have no clue about based on this trailer, so maybe there's a good chance they have something in store to reveal on that front later on. We can only hope.

I defintiely agree with your list and would love to see all that implemented as well.

[underdog13]

Quote: Originally Posted by buck135

I challenge anyone to pull up YouTube gameplay of any of the past three PS4 versions and tell me that the differences have been overly noticable from year to year. Collecting digital baseball cards, dynamic lighting and Matrix slo mo doesn’t impress me. All of the classic ballparks have already been created and recycled from the PS3 build. Show me the old Yankee Stadium with the Ballantine scoreboard and I'll get excited. I bought the last three games day one, so I can express a little frustration here with this years huge addition of R.B.I. Baseball mode and NB cleats. What this game desperately needs is a commentary system similar to what Madden has. You don't need Joe Buck or Harold Reynolds. This will help the grind of the 162 game schedule. The regular season games need to feel unique (like the NBA 2K series). The menus absolutely have to be improved. Roster management (scouting, minors, etc.) needs work as does the AI of the computer controlled teams. This isn't wishlist stuff here. Rain delays and better crowd animations are. I'd love real sponsors (Citgo anyone?) and classic teams, but I understand the financial hurdles there. I am not interested in individual classic players. I don't want to integrate Jason Giambi with my Nationals franchise. I also don't give a fig about Ken Griffey Jr. The money Sony gave him could have been better spent elsewhere. Speaking of which, can the menu soundtracks be dropped? Yes, it's a one minute trailer with pre-beta footage. However, when has the final build ever looked significantly better? Another member asked why with three months to go is there little information about this game. It's a great question. They have no competition. What little they did have (R.B.I. Baseball) has been addressed. I want this series to evolve. Even NHL is making tremendous strides though after that catastrophe two years ago, there's nowhere to go but up. NBA 2K is a benchmark and Madden is excellent. Singing Sony's praises every year isn't going to change anything. Jersey wrinkles aren't ground breaking.

1) Plenty of things aren't noticed in a video. Like how they redid zone hitting for 16. Not to mention the great job they did with the Osd's in 16.

2) Cool DD doesn't interest you. Doesn't change the fact they created one of the best ultimate team modes in two years of revamping.

3) This is what I'm afraid of. People praising Madden's announcing then the Show changing it to reflect Madden's. Madden's announcing is awful in Franchise mode, they rarely reflect on a players stats and always think it is 2016.

4) Griffey was the most requested play for DD. DD is more important than franchise in SDS' minds.


Look I would agree if you said Franchise has received very little meaningful improvements in the past 5 years. I mean they have redone the scouting system like every year and somehow it is still the same, but stating that they haven't added anything and that it is a roster update isn't an opinion it's just not true.