MLB The Show 17 Trailer, Retro Mode Details Revealed

[redsfan4life]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhilliesFan13

I wish The Show forum was a supporters only forum. Not saying that would fix the problem entirely but it would probably help. For God's sake it's a 1 minute trailer. You can't judge an entire game that is 3 months away on that. Besides the few tidbits we saw in it we know nothing about what they have planned for this year. If 1 minute is enough for you to decide you don't want it, then so be it. Get off the forum and stop complaining about it. The negativity does absolutely nothing for this forum except piss people off and deter from constructive conversation. Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

I'm not on either side here, but to me people that blindly support the game no matter what are just as annoying as people that rip on the game. Just because you don't agree with someone being upset, doesn't mean you should take it upon yourself to single them out in a post. Let them speak their mind as long as they aren't attacking anyone personally.

[PhilliesFan13]

I have no issue with people being upset. That's their right. It's the way people troll and present themselves about it. The sense of entitlement is always so strong this time of year. It's like, "Well you didn't put what I want in the game when I want it and that is unacceptable."

I do not blindly support this game no matter what. There are things I would like to see addressed just like everyone else. I just choose not to call out developers and trash them year after year for not doing something. Most of the people complaining are still going to buy the game anyway and then complain some more. Rinse and repeat next December. People can feel however they want to. There's no reason to be disrespectful about it though. Whenever improved graphics come along it will just be on to the next thing that is unacceptable to not be done.

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[dalger21]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhilliesFan13

I have no issue with people being upset. That's their right. It's the way people troll and present themselves about it. The sense of entitlement is always so strong this time of year. It's like, "Well you didn't put what I want in the game when I want it and that is unacceptable."

Spot on...

[Blzer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mercury112491

Ahhh the annual outrage of people being let down when their unrealistic expectations aren't met.

I don't think it's unrealistic to have had a wishlist running on seven years hoping for big changes in minor areas and not getting a notice about any of them.

I've been holding onto hope for new player models, "proper" night sky progression (I have a different matter of opinion on it), authentic broadcast fielding camera, animated jersey cloth, proper field/stadium colors, better ball physics (this covers a whole plethora of items), sprint and catch buttons, etc.

Most of these wishlist items are just exactly that: wishlist items. It is me saying: "It would be cool if we had this." About every year since '10, ball physics have been getting their upgrades; animated jersey cloth is making its first appearance this year as well. Stadium colors have gotten better, and for now it doesn't really sit on a wishlist anymore though I hope they keep striving for more each year.

At any rate, there are some things that bring people to a game, or take them away from a game. The 2K series lost me for one reason only: they took away zone hitting and added directional hitting. The game had a lot of other ugly things, but it also had a lot of great things and I was willing to deal with them. But taking out zone hitting was not one of the things I was hoping for.

Unrealistic expectations? Depends on the user you're talking about. Some people here still just see a last-gen game. Hell, in many ways you can look at MLB 2005 on PS2 and still see small trails of that game in the game we have today. I mean you should in a way because the game was great then, and why deviate too far from a working model? If 2K came back out with an NFL game within the next few years, I would threaten them if they didn't go back to what made ESPN NFL 2K5 so great. Of course, that would only be their third game in about fifteen years, but evolution still needs to take course.

Many people just don't want a roster update. That's not at all what I am calling this game, but if people's wishes aren't granted, it doesn't matter how many changes or additions they make... that's just what they'll call it. And you can't blame them. $60 is a lot to spend every year, and you can continue to love the last year's game if it still satisfies your needs until 2018 if you need be. I've bought every game since MLB '09, and my only detraction is I don't have enough time to play games anymore, much less an entire franchise. Someday I have to decide that the money I spend is not worth as much as the changes they make. Until then, I have always been impressed with what they have brought to us, no matter you believe my impression of these games are. If I didn't, I wouldn't buy it year-in and year-out.

[buck135]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blzer

I don't think it's unrealistic to have had a wishlist running on seven years hoping for big changes in minor areas and not getting a notice about any of them. I've been holding onto hope for new player models, "proper" night sky progression (I have a different matter of opinion on it), authentic broadcast fielding camera, animated jersey cloth, proper field/stadium colors, better ball physics (this covers a whole plethora of items), sprint and catch buttons, etc. Most of these wishlist items are just exactly that: wishlist items. It is me saying: "It would be cool if we had this." About every year since '10, ball physics have been getting their upgrades; animated jersey cloth is making its first appearance this year as well. Stadium colors have gotten better, and for now it doesn't really sit on a wishlist anymore though I hope they keep striving for more each year. At any rate, there are some things that bring people to a game, or take them away from a game. The 2K series lost me for one reason only: they took away zone hitting and added directional hitting. The game had a lot of other ugly things, but it also had a lot of great things and I was willing to deal with them. But taking out zone hitting was not one of the things I was hoping for. Unrealistic expectations? Depends on the user you're talking about. Some people here still just see a last-gen game. Hell, in many ways you can look at MLB 2005 on PS2 and still see small trails of that game in the game we have today. I mean you should in a way because the game was great then, and why deviate too far from a working model? If 2K came back out with an NFL game within the next few years, I would threaten them if they didn't go back to what made ESPN NFL 2K5 so great. Of course, that would only be their third game in about fifteen years, but evolution still needs to take course. Many people just don't want a roster update. That's not at all what I am calling this game, but if people's wishes aren't granted, it doesn't matter how many changes or additions they make... that's just what they'll call it. And you can't blame them. $60 is a lot to spend every year, and you can continue to love the last year's game if it still satisfies your needs until 2018 if you need be. I've bought every game since MLB '09, and my only detraction is I don't have enough time to play games anymore, much less an entire franchise. Someday I have to decide that the money I spend is not worth as much as the changes they make. Until then, I have always been impressed with what they have brought to us, no matter you believe my impression of these games are. If I didn't, I wouldn't buy it year-in and year-out.

Thank you. The last two years have been roster updates. The addition of Griffey and Retro Mode doesn’t excite the die hard fans. The same one minute trailer highlighting new commentary and AI fixes instead would have people lining up to buy it.

[redsfan4life]

I think the biggest thing is that last year is seen as a disappointment to so many. Online was a fiasco at release if everyone remembers. And it took a long time to fix. I think people are just expecting a big jump back year from the SCEA guys this year.

[Speedy]

I get it.

But...it's a 1-minute trailer that honestly proves nothing to me. I remember last year that they were pushing up until the release to get PBR included in as many areas as possible. While the trailer is admittedly underwhelming, I'm not going to pass judgement until I see some more info in Jan/Feb.

That's not saying they'll get a pass or should be beyond criticism...rather, it's too early to tell. Personally, if they have an updated hitting engine (which I find to be THE most frustrating thing in this game as I don't find hitting as enjoyable as it should be) I don't care what the graphics are.

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lovesports

What overreactions? The game looks 100% the same as the last two years with the addition of Griifey. You want me to worship the game that hasn't made any visual improvement in a few years??

I don't want you to worship anything.

The overreactions are those claiming that this hasn't been fixed or that based on zero information. The only thing we know now is what the game will look like and that there will be a Retro Mode. That's it. To claim that X, Y, Z, isn't fixed or not in the game is an overreaction to a one minute trailer.