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Old 12-02-2016, 12:43 AM   #241
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Re: Madden NFL 17 Title Update #7 Available Now, Here Are The Details

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I have played with cpu qb awareness at one, you can't make it zero, and it had no noticeable affect.
That's strange, I found a big difference. It didn't change his acc very much, but he stood in the pocket much longer, took sacks as if he didn't see them coming, and seemed as though he couldn't find his receivers. He was scrabbling QB.. When I set his Awr to 99, replayed the same game same settings and GP' he moved around much more, scrambled once or twice, threw the ball much quicker, tried to avoid sacks and seemed to spot his receivers. I guess it could be a coincidence. I will try again.

Roady, you posted that the punt issue had been fixed, but not included in the patch. Is that something you have confirmed from a tweet or what. Or did I misread it, I can't imagine for the life of me, If this is was fixed at the time, Why on earth , what excuse could there possibly be for not including it in the patch.?
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:49 AM   #242
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To be fair I played against then 49ers and kaep was kaep. Missing easily 6 or 7 overthrows. Personally i don't see an issue with CPU QB acc. Games has been really variable. Some 50 to 85%.

The problem is the user. They get some kind of bonus or something. When I play with kaep I never miss. Even if I tried to hit the ground on purpose I can't.

It's easier to complete a pass than to throw a overthrow.

Do the test and try to miss WR on purpose. You will see how hard it is. (I mean to overthrow it)

And to make thing worst. QB alider it's not working at all since the 1.6 version, but this is known issue by now.


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I'm not the greatest at passing, so I find it a challenge to complete over 60% passes. I play as Seattle and I definitely throw a few off target passes a game with Wilson, along with the poorly timed ones I force into coverage and get my receivers killed.

I've had games where I held the cpu qb under 50% and had games where they completed 85%. I find that the games I have success stopping them is because they are throwing the ball into the stands either due to pressure or nobody open although there is the odd misfire.
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Old 12-02-2016, 01:00 AM   #243
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That's strange, I found a big difference. It didn't change his acc very much, but he stood in the pocket much longer, took sacks as if he didn't see them coming, and seemed as though he couldn't find his receivers. He was scrabbling QB.. When I set his Awr to 99, replayed the same game same settings and GP' he moved around much more, scrambled once or twice, threw the ball much quicker, tried to avoid sacks and seemed to spot his receivers. I guess it could be a coincidence. I will try again.

Roady, you posted that the punt issue had been fixed, but not included in the patch. Is that something you have confirmed from a tweet or what. Or did I misread it, I can't imagine for the life of me, If this is was fixed at the time, Why on earth , what excuse could there possibly be for not including it in the patch.?
I thought I gave you Clint's twitter link yesterday in this very thread, no? You typed out Clint's response either last night or this morning in one of your post.

It's the same reason you mentioned.
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Old 12-02-2016, 01:33 AM   #244
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That's strange, I found a big difference. It didn't change his acc very much, but he stood in the pocket much longer, took sacks as if he didn't see them coming, and seemed as though he couldn't find his receivers. He was scrabbling QB.. When I set his Awr to 99, replayed the same game same settings and GP' he moved around much more, scrambled once or twice, threw the ball much quicker, tried to avoid sacks and seemed to spot his receivers. I guess it could be a coincidence. I will try again.

Roady, you posted that the punt issue had been fixed, but not included in the patch. Is that something you have confirmed from a tweet or what. Or did I misread it, I can't imagine for the life of me, If this is was fixed at the time, Why on earth , what excuse could there possibly be for not including it in the patch.?
Look, but the mans name, is roadman, can you please address him as such. Im just simply mking a polite request.

I mean, unless you guys are friends, or brothers, fine, but it just sounds condescending.
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Old 12-02-2016, 04:32 AM   #245
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BadAssHskr. Not A PROBLEM. I have nothing but complete and total respect for Roadman. Although I have never met him, I have chatted with him on the phone several years ago when he helped me and introduced me to the Show. I do consider him a friend and meant no respect towards or him anyone. He calls me CC which is absolutely fine. But if it make you feel better, I will address him as Roadman from now on.

Roadman, Sorry, I didn't see the address for Clint, I must have passed by it, I will go back through the pages. The only thing I posted was a copy of someone saying it just fell off that I read.

And your help is always appreciated. And if I offended you by calling you Roady. I am sorry. I will try to be more politically correct.
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To be fair I played against then 49ers and kaep was kaep. Missing easily 6 or 7 overthrows. Personally i don't see an issue with CPU QB acc. Games has been really variable. Some 50 to 85%.

The problem is the user. They get some kind of bonus or something. When I play with kaep I never miss. Even if I tried to hit the ground on purpose I can't.

It's easier to complete a pass than to throw a overthrow.

Do the test and try to miss WR on purpose. You will see how hard it is. (I mean to overthrow it)

And to make thing worst. QB alider it's not working at all since the 1.6 version, but this is known issue by now.


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This brings up a good point:

The CPU uses lead passing/Hi and Low Their mechanics. These lead to more inaccurate passing, but also better chances for big plays.

For those of you with QBA issues - how often do you use those mechanics?

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Old 12-02-2016, 08:35 AM   #247
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This was from Clint last week:
Please for the love of sports gaming don't let this lead be buried:

We spend so much time breaking apart games that sometimes we over think simple ideas, and this is a terrific example. We have respected users in this community believing Awareness affects things that it simply doesn't affect. And I'm pretty sure this has been confirmed prior to Clint tweeting it last week.

Don't over think it guys. Please. Sometimes the simplest answer truly is the correct one

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Old 12-02-2016, 09:07 AM   #248
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This brings up a good point:

The CPU uses lead passing/Hi and Low Their mechanics. These lead to more inaccurate passing, but also better chances for big plays.

For those of you with QBA issues - how often do you use those mechanics?

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I use lead passing, bullet, touch, low trajectory on comeback routes, the double tap icon on crossing routes. The fade L1 plus pushing up on the stick.

I will get inaccurate passes using these mechanics. If I go straight icon passing with bullet or touch it decreases.

That is an excellent point.

I will say no doubt in my mind user QBA was tuned and nerfed down intentionally on unintentionally. I was throwing more inaccurate passes before th October patch. It's not horrible now...but it is less frequent.

Sim stats are excellent. In game the QBA stats...sometimes are great, sometimes I am deadly accurate. But that's football to me. At the end of the season if the stat's look good...I am cool.

It's not a huge problem for me personally. I think the game plays better post patches....again I seem to be in the minority in our community. But for me the running game is now earned as opposed to easy pre patch. Fumbles are better and far more balanced now than out of the box.

The only thing I wish we had back out of the box was kicking.
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