Supreme Court Rejects Hearing of O'Bannon Case

[Junior Moe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP

I grew up a Minnesota fan. Went to school there and still like the team. Maybe it's due to their mediocrity in my lifetime, but I've never really been a big fan of real life college football. I hate the overtime rules, too many blowouts/meaningless games. I've always preferred the NFL to NCAA football. BUT, I bout the last 4 iterations of NCAA football and I enjoyed my time on those games vastly more than on Madden. I think it's building programs, every game mattering, and also the nature of rosters staying fresh. Every 4 years you are for sure not playing with the same players. I said I wouldn't hook up my 360 ever again... but I can't resist. NCAA is getting booted up tonight.

I started out buying NCAA football to tide me over until Madden. But eventually, it became a staple of my ga,ing library because it provided something Madden couldn't; emotion and uncertainty. Playing in The Swamp with a freshman GA QB and having the stadium and camera shake was insane. NCAA CH was similar. Just can't find that stuff in the pros. Plus, college games lend themselves better to roster turnover. Players are always coming and going. That's why I think generic rosters would be ok in these games if they did come back. College is more about the schools, conferences and rivalries than say "star power".

[Mauer4MVP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Junior Moe

I started out buying NCAA football to tide me over until Madden. But eventually, it became a staple of my ga,ing library because it provided something Madden couldn't; emotion and uncertainty. Playing in The Swamp with a freshman GA QB and having the stadium and camera shake was insane. NCAA CH was similar. Just can't find that stuff in the pros. Plus, college games lend themselves better to roster turnover. Players are always coming and going. That's why I think generic rosters would be ok in these games if they did come back. College is more about the schools, conferences and rivalries than say "star power".

100% agree. In fact, I'd imagine for most people the most memorable seasons are with the generic/cpu generated players.

[Dregs]

Here's my two cents about the issue

EA and the colleges should do a poll to see how much interest people still have in the college football games. Take those limited poll results and compared them with EA ncaa football franchise yearly sales and bring that to the courts or a neutral meeting table.

from those combined set of information, have one last poll from those two polls to see how many people are still playing ncaa football 14. if they see there are people still playing the game and dont care for real players than there's no issue here.

the last time i only cared for real players was when reggie bush, matt leinart, vince young, and the others were in the game. otherwise my xbox 360 wireless adapter isnt plugged in as i favor offline play only

[ndfan1993]

Again, we here are the minority not the majority of players. How many people have commented on this thread...and how many units of NCAA 14 were sold?

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by ndfan1993

Again, we here are the minority not the majority of players. How many people have commented on this thread...and how many units of NCAA 14 were sold?

I don't think the views expressed in this thread ARE the minority. I worked with Fairdale on his rosters and I can easily say the majority of the public just wants college football and do not care about the specific athletes or names like hardcore sports fans here on OS do.

What I see mostly in this thread is people just want a college game back and they don't need named players or players just like their real life counterparts and that is exactly the sentiment of the majority of the general public as well.


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[R1zzo23]

I agree with what most people are saying in here. For me I grew up a Madden fan because I was young and only watched the NFL and wasn't familiar with college football. Growing up near Boston college sports is not big at all. I would play seasons of Madden and thought it was the best sports gaming experience.

I started getting interested in college sports late in high school with College Hoops 2k8 (still the best franchise/dynasty mode I've ever played) and finally bought NCAA football. From that moment on Madden has never been the same. With every game being so important, with the variety of teams and offenses, with the huge upsets and huge bowl games, with the roster turnover and new recruits I felt NCAA gave me more excitement than Madden.

The generic rosters debate is funny because I know when I start a new dynasty, like I did with MTSU just recently, I want an updated and accurate roster. But once I start playing, I want the generated recruits on my roster faster than I want the real players off my roster. Someone said that most people's favorite moments in NCAA football come once the fake players have taken over the game and I cannot agree more. Those kids you recruited and groomed to lead the program will always mean more than inheriting that 90 overall QB-WR duo at the start of the dynasty.

I would absolutely buy any college football or basketball game that came with completely generic rosters, even if there were no roster sharing. I don't see that happening any time soon though because I feel the majority of the people that buy college sports games are looking to play with their favorite players more so than us hardcore players that want to build programs with fake players.


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[Mauer4MVP]

Quote: Originally Posted by ndfan1993

Again, we here are the minority not the majority of players. How many people have commented on this thread...and how many units of NCAA 14 were sold?

What do you even mean by this? NCAA 14 is already 4 cycles ago. Of course there won't be many people commenting.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by rhs_rizzo

I would absolutely buy any college football or basketball game that came with completely generic rosters, even if there were no roster sharing. I don't see that happening any time soon though because I feel the majority of the people that buy college sports games are looking to play with their favorite players more so than us hardcore players that want to build programs with fake players. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Now see I know this is the perception here on OS but having worked with the rosters and talked to a LOT of people in video game stores and online through the years I don't believe it to be the case. The vast majority of people I've talked to about NCAA and its players, never knew about the named rosters and in fact, most didn't care if even the numbers were right or the players were like their real life counterparts.

I've known a ton of casual (non-OS) NCAA players throughout the years and the general idea is they just want their schools, the bowl games, music, etc to be right and they don't care about individual players.

I know it seems counter-intuitive but I do think a general NCAA game with the correct schools, music, mascots, and etc would sell quite well.

I honestly wonder if EA is doing polling and market research to verify that this is the case and, if so, then I expect it would mean we'd get a college football game sooner rather than later. I'm still not sure the numbers are there for a basketball game though, and specifically because individual players and their likenesses are more important in basketball than football.