Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

[cable guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Our online franchise is All Madden. The rank games and draft champions are All Pro of course. I'm seeing the same thing on All Madden it's just globally more difficult Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks bro. I'm going to give all-pro, off line of course, a shot tonight. I'll give some impressions in the next few days.

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[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Now that I have played a lot of games with the new patch (online ranked, Draft Champions, Online Franchise head to head, and play now/ franchise v the CPU) I've changed my opinion. I'm not happy with most changes they have made. I do like how the force players are playing outside zone better but, honestly I didn't have trouble stopping those before. Kicking is just ridiculously easy for me now. My last online franchise head to head game me and my opponent where nailing 58 yarders easy. I wasn't even close one time according to the accuracy meter it still was dead on. I'm using the same kicker with the same ratings that I did pre patch. - I loved the challenge before. I actually had a kicking advantage over most opponents because I practiced. I still had to really concentrate though. I also knew if it was over 50 I would struggle so field position was important. Now it's just mindless. -OL DL doesn't account for ratings anymore. I don't know what happened but, your OL won't matter anymore. 60 overalls will basically block the same as 90 overalls. Just draft a bad team on purpose in a fantasy draft franchise or play draft champions without drafting OL DL. Won't matter much if at all. I've done both. -QB's are about the same now. My Rams QB Kennom was tough to use pre patch. I was around 57%. Now he can't miss. Same ratings. I purposely didn't draft a QB in draft champions and used 70 over Conner Cook. Bad OL and all. I'm 3-0 so far and he's thrown for about 75-80% so far. He'll miss occasionally but, not much. -Finally, ratings matter less than ever now IMO. I shouldn't be able to draft the draft champions team I drafted and win how I'm winning. I'm passing almost every time and using dime and nickel every time just to test. My opponent has had elite DL that can't get pressure and they can't run against dime and nickel. So I give the new patch a thumbs down. I don't support the direction they are going. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I finally got fed up today and tweeted Rex and Clint about All-Madden being broken. I never tweet them guys but I'm not enjoying the game anymore. Clint actually responded back saying they didn't mess with anything besides what was posted with the patch notes. Saying I should raise the CPUs pass D up and that should help there coverage. I was like I have there whole Pass defense maxed out at 100. I gave him link to my sliders over here. I wish I knew how to post our little conversation.

They obviously broke something and don't know that they did because it's not playing the same at all. Me being able to shred the CPUs defense with the USER accuracy at 0 with there defense maxed out is crazy. You should tweet him too if you haven't already about this issue. They need to know that All-Madden is not playing the way it was pre patch.

[D81SKINS]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Now that I have played a lot of games with the new patch (online ranked, Draft Champions, Online Franchise head to head, and play now/ franchise v the CPU) I've changed my opinion. I'm not happy with most changes they have made. I do like how the force players are playing outside zone better but, honestly I didn't have trouble stopping those before. Kicking is just ridiculously easy for me now. My last online franchise head to head game me and my opponent where nailing 58 yarders easy. I wasn't even close one time according to the accuracy meter it still was dead on. I'm using the same kicker with the same ratings that I did pre patch. - I loved the challenge before. I actually had a kicking advantage over most opponents because I practiced. I still had to really concentrate though. I also knew if it was over 50 I would struggle so field position was important. Now it's just mindless. -OL DL doesn't account for ratings anymore. I don't know what happened but, your OL won't matter anymore. 60 overalls will basically block the same as 90 overalls. Just draft a bad team on purpose in a fantasy draft franchise or play draft champions without drafting OL DL. Won't matter much if at all. I've done both. -QB's are about the same now. My Rams QB Kennom was tough to use pre patch. I was around 57%. Now he can't miss. Same ratings. I purposely didn't draft a QB in draft champions and used 70 over Conner Cook. Bad OL and all. I'm 3-0 so far and he's thrown for about 75-80% so far. He'll miss occasionally but, not much. -Finally, ratings matter less than ever now IMO. I shouldn't be able to draft the draft champions team I drafted and win how I'm winning. I'm passing almost every time and using dime and nickel every time just to test. My opponent has had elite DL that can't get pressure and they can't run against dime and nickel. So I give the new patch a thumbs down. I don't support the direction they are going. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Isn't Draft Champions, Head 2 Head, and CFM all tuned differently?
I'm surprised to see this though!

So far in my limited 3 games Post-Patch(2 more tomorrow I'm off), it's been very much improved, I have noticed the defenses are better vs Run, which seems to make them more susceptible to the pass at times.

Now the good news is! My 3rd string QB(both Cousins and McCoy were hurt for 1 game)got some PT!
He struggled greatly (using my modified AP sliders)!
He threw 4 ints in his 1st start.
I played with him just like he was Cousins and he STRUGGLED!
I'm thinking if you guys go back to All-Pro default and adjust it from their, you'll see more of that "Sim" feel!
I actually felt AP played better defense than AM did(pre-patch), haven't test AM Post-Patch. With the trouble I'm seeing with AM I'm afraid to linger too far away from my currently playing good AP set.
Idk, call me crazy but it sounds like it wouldn't hurt for some.

[Armor and Sword]

The only negative I have noticed and am working on is CPU pass blocking. It is ridiculous easy for me to rush the passer now vs the CPU and being that I am using Oakland it is painfully obvious.

Just vastly OP so I am going to tune CPU pass blocking to an approbate level of earning sacks again. Just so easy to shed their blocks now on ALL-PRO.

[mpd3892]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor and Sword

The only negative I have noticed and am working on is CPU pass blocking. It is ridiculous easy for me to rush the passer now vs the CPU and being that I am using Oakland it is painfully obvious. Just vastly OP so I am going to tune CPU pass blocking to an approbate level of earning sacks again. Just so easy to shed their blocks now on ALL-PRO.

Interesting. Where is the pressure coming from, DTs or DEs? Also, how is the pressure when only rushing DL (no blitz)?

[cable guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by mpd3892

Interesting. Where is the pressure coming from, DTs or DEs? Also, how is the pressure when only rushing DL (no blitz)?

DE's for me. I can not get thru with my DT's. All madden. Now up to cpu pass blk 35

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[mpd3892]

Quote: Originally Posted by cable guy

DE's for me. I can not get thru with my DT's. All madden. Now up to cpu pass blk 35 Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Thanks. Wish it were otherwise. Therein lies the problem. Oh well. On we go.

[sooner1]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Now that I have played a lot of games with the new patch (online ranked, Draft Champions, Online Franchise head to head, and play now/ franchise v the CPU) I've changed my opinion. I'm not happy with most changes they have made. I do like how the force players are playing outside zone better but, honestly I didn't have trouble stopping those before. Kicking is just ridiculously easy for me now. My last online franchise head to head game me and my opponent where nailing 58 yarders easy. I wasn't even close one time according to the accuracy meter it still was dead on. I'm using the same kicker with the same ratings that I did pre patch. - I loved the challenge before. I actually had a kicking advantage over most opponents because I practiced. I still had to really concentrate though. I also knew if it was over 50 I would struggle so field position was important. Now it's just mindless. -OL DL doesn't account for ratings anymore. I don't know what happened but, your OL won't matter anymore. 60 overalls will basically block the same as 90 overalls. Just draft a bad team on purpose in a fantasy draft franchise or play draft champions without drafting OL DL. Won't matter much if at all. I've done both. -QB's are about the same now. My Rams QB Kennom was tough to use pre patch. I was around 57%. Now he can't miss. Same ratings. I purposely didn't draft a QB in draft champions and used 70 over Conner Cook. Bad OL and all. I'm 3-0 so far and he's thrown for about 75-80% so far. He'll miss occasionally but, not much. -Finally, ratings matter less than ever now IMO. I shouldn't be able to draft the draft champions team I drafted and win how I'm winning. I'm passing almost every time and using dime and nickel every time just to test. My opponent has had elite DL that can't get pressure and they can't run against dime and nickel. So I give the new patch a thumbs down. I don't support the direction they are going. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Your exactly right. After the last patch and tuners the game has gone back to easy mode. Way too many deepballs. Zones are trash. The game is almost Madden 16 again without nanos. Whats EAs obsession with killing off the D???? It was awesome when the game first dropped. Now I don't care to put too much into this game its really really sad.