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[SECElit3]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Honestly, I haven't felt or noticed a speed difference in the kicking meter since launch.

Launch had a release day patch


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[jmik58]

Quote: Originally Posted by T4VERTS

As an FYI, I just talked to Clint. The kick meter speed has not changed since launch. Straight from the man's mouth.

Doesn't the speed of the meter change depending on the distance/difficulty of the kick? On shorter FG's the meter moves super-slow for me. I hate to be "that guy" -- but is it possible that the person thinking the speed changed is simply forgetting that distance and kicker skill impacts the speed of the meter?

[T4VERTS]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmik58

Doesn't the speed of the meter change depending on the distance/difficulty of the kick? On shorter FG's the meter moves super-slow for me. I hate to be "that guy" -- but is it possible that the person thinking the speed changed is simply forgetting that distance and kicker skill impacts the speed of the meter?

It very well could be, like I said people have a perception and then take that to be reality no matter if it is true or not.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

I think you are reading too much into it. I'm trying to understand the metrics. Any response you can get regarding them looking at the broken fga slider is appreciated.

Maybe it was the tone that came across to me.

Beyond the fact they have metrics for every mode and stat, that's all I know and 4verts went into it a bit more than I did.

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by T4VERTS

People were missing from 20 to 30 out (Extra Points as well) on launch. The thing is people have adjusted to it being new, the game really hasn't I promise you (other than 10% target zone). Using real stats doesn't correlate to a game, especially in this case where the mechanic is skill based. If you want a dice roll for kicking I am sure they could make it match statistic wise, but do you want kicking to just be hit a button and see what happens? People will adapt to any mechanic.

Personally, I think the button press and a dice roll would be a welcome option at this point. The act of kicking using the meter is a function of muscle memory and largely devoid of any actual thought process. There was a point early in the release where my kicking meter had completely disappeared from the screen-totally gone due to some sort of glitch-and I was able to time the button sequence and make the kick anyway.

I have not yet seen the end of game "pressure kick" meter change that is talked about in my games, so I can't speak to that mechanic.

In past versions of Madden I had resorted to simming all FG attempts so that I could get some misses on both sides (CPU is still pretty automatic even now). The problem was, you can't watch the kick play out so it takes you out of the moment. Immersion is lost.

Perhaps a button push dice roll with the ability to watch the FG attempt play out on the screen would be a more exciting option. Heck, why not allow the option to choose? Kick it yourself or press and watch using player statistical averages.

[Champion8877]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

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I played 20 hours worth of ea access before launch day. The kicking speed was not changed from the access to release day. Or if it was, it was such a small change that it was completely unnoticeable

Please provide some sort of patch note or something to back up what you are saying. Because I'm 99.99% sure you're wrong in regards to kick speed changing. Especially a large 30% change as you tried to claim earlier


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[mjavon]

Noticed last night when I was playing that sack-fumbles are correctly registering as sacks for the defender now.

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by T4VERTS

The data set is huge, your testing is minuscule and has no real impact on it. They sold 750k copies week one, for sake of using easy round numbers lets say they sold a million copies to date (I know it's more than that). If every person has kicked 100 times (I know most are way more) then that is 100 million points of data to work off of. I am sure they used best practices in analyzing data including accounting for outliers. Understand they can see how many misses there are at every yard mark with every wind and weather condition in game. They get the global picture of what is going on.

Ideally they would use data from users 10+ games in to make sure they understand the mechanic.

In an event, I understand why they would have to make changes if the online community was missing too many fgs because of lag or glitch or whatever if that's what the data tells them. But then offline needs the working tools to customize the game or at least keep the product that we originally had at launch.