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[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

GUYS, You are not hearing me. You would only know this if you went back to out of the box game play. The speed was reduced with the first patch. I can't speak for what the speed is post the second patch. It was absolutely reduced from out of the box game play. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

All right man. Whatever you want to think. You hate the game now.

I don't agree about the kick speed.


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[SECElit3]

Look, it is clear to see that there are two sides of the table here. There is one that feels the improvements were beneficial and improved the game. There are others who played the game with the recent updates, and feel the recent changes make the game less enjoyable. I am in that camp. I enjoyed the game prior to the updates, and now I do not. Those who bought the game and are enjoying the updates, have nothing to lose. However, those who bought the game, and do not enjoy the changes, do. We are faced with the decision to update, or lose access to the servers. Consequently, the impact to us is much greater. We lose commentary updates, access to the share, or even uniforms if we choose to revert.

So, for me anyway, I see it unfair to purchase a product based on the game play I experienced at that time. Then later have the game patched to a state where I no longer enjoy it, or have limited or no access to great features.

As for those who feel it necessary to ridicule my observations, relative to my own perspectives, let's just agree to disagree. Continue to enjoy the game. However, I am well within my right to post my opinions and observations, in hopes that one day a compromise will made for those who wish to enjoy a simulation football game.


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[charter04]

As far as the kicking game itself.

A meter like this isn't new for Madden. I think Madden 12 was the last one to have one similar.

Before any patches or anything I had already went to the kicking skills trainer and basically was making every kick except the occasional long kick.

It's not hard to get the timing down.

The point is that it's hard to say what's too easy.

I bet if the kicking came out of the box like this people would have struggled at first just like before adjustments.

It's hard to compare how much easier this is because for a lot of us it was already easy.

I know the meter isn't slower


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[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

So what were these metrics? How were they compiled? Did it take into account people playing for the first time or did it grab data from people who had 10 or more games in. Was it grabbing my data when I was testing the broken field goal slider and shanking all those field goals while testing the broken slider below 30 FGA. At this point all we can hope for is that they fix the broken FGA slider so we can adjust the game as we like. Hopefully they respond back to that issue.

Slow down, they have metrics for all parts of every mode in the game.

Geez, I don't feel like trying to help out with attitudes like this. I try to get information and this is the response I get. I am just the messenger, folks.

They haven't made the metrics public at this point and I don't know if they ever will.

[T4VERTS]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

So what were these metrics? How were they compiled? Did it take into account people playing for the first time or did it grab data from people who had 10 or more games in. Was it grabbing my data when I was testing the broken field goal slider and shanking all those field goals while testing the broken slider below 30 FGA. At this point all we can hope for is that they fix the broken FGA slider so we can adjust the game as we like. Hopefully they respond back to that issue.

The data set is huge, your testing is minuscule and has no real impact on it. They sold 750k copies week one, for sake of using easy round numbers lets say they sold a million copies to date (I know it's more than that). If every person has kicked 100 times (I know most are way more) then that is 100 million points of data to work off of. I am sure they used best practices in analyzing data including accounting for outliers.

Understand they can see how many misses there are at every yard mark with every wind and weather condition in game. They get the global picture of what is going on.

[Dcourtne]

In the kicking game, in online user games, I've experienced uneven timing as the kick meter seems to have variable speeds that throw off my timing. If this fix addresses that, I'm all for it. In CPU games, kicking is consistent which lends itself to being easy. Imo. And I'm fine with that

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Slow down, they have metrics for all parts of every mode in the game. Geez, I don't feel like trying to help out with attitudes like this. I try to get information and this is the response I get. I am just the messenger, folks. They haven't made the metrics public at this point and I don't know if they ever will.

I think you are reading too much into it. I'm trying to understand the metrics.

Any response you can get regarding them looking at the broken fga slider is appreciated.

[T4VERTS]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

Look, it is clear to see that there are two sides of the table here. There is one that feels the improvements were beneficial and improved the game. There are others who played the game with the recent updates, and feel the recent changes make the game less enjoyable. I am in that camp. I enjoyed the game prior to the updates, and now I do not. Those who bought the game and are enjoying the updates, have nothing to lose. However, those who bought the game, and do not enjoy the changes, do. We are faced with the decision to update, or lose access to the servers. Consequently, the impact to us is much greater. We lose commentary updates, access to the share, or even uniforms if we choose to revert. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

As an FYI, I just talked to Clint. The kick meter speed has not changed since launch. Straight from the man's mouth.