Madden NFL 17 Title Update #2 Available Now For Xbox One & PS4 - Details Included

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by T4VERTS

So a 10% change in the target zone automatically made it too easy?

If they had shrunk it 20% but everyone was still kicking at 100% success would it really matter?

The outcome is the same.

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Stop saying FG kicking is too easy. After the patch, I missed 2 50 yd FG's into the wind. The accuracy meter narrows the further the distance you go. And there's no need to throw up numbers in the air to see if they stick. The kicking meter is not slower on AP for me.

Were you short, wide, or both?

[Rashad19]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

Agreed. I hate sounding like a broken record, but I am very concerned for the simulation gamer, speaking in reference to where I think this game might be headed from a game play standpoint. I can see that in the very near future, we will be fighting for sim aspects to return to the game. I am afraid, but convinced that remaining updates will build the game to more of a tournament state in preparation for the big money competition taking place soon. eSports seems to be focus point for EA. I can't see that amounting to anything good for the sim gamer. Guys, I see a storm on the horizon. I am not placing blame on Rex or his team. He's even said it himself that he is concerned about interference from places above him. I am sure he is doing everything he can to fight for a simulation experience. Sometimes it's just out of your control. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I am right there with you and have always felt the game should come with a simulation difficulty setting to cater to the simulation style gamer who wants an authentic NFL experience. I will say this though. After playing a sample game last night(I know small sample size) I missed an XP and had my RB fumble which I lost after I got smacked breaking out of a tackle. I played as the Bears vs. the Vikings and won a hard fought contest 16-8. Offensively I played close to vest running the ball and throwing short safe passes to milk the clock. Whenever I tried to open things up the Minnesota front four flat out got after me.


Defensively I played a bend but don't break style and was able to keep the Vikings offense in check but I never really felt stressed by their attack until late in the fourth quarter. Overall the CPU felt more aggressive on defense and my defense felt more sound up front. My defensively line was able to create a few negative run plays that helped me to keep them behind the chains.


I personally think style of play has a lot to do with the data Rex is analyzing and it's my fear we are adjusting the game based off guys who want to pass every down and send out every receiver yet doesn't want to be penalized by QB fumbles for throwing 40 plus times a game. They don't want to punt or deal with penalties that throw your offense off schedule.


So instead of learning to play a more sound game and think through how they should deal with the strengths of the opponent their facing they choose to complain and say how broken the game is. Those are just a few of my takes so I'll end my rant for now. I think a simulation mode could end a lot of the frustrations that I see daily on this board.

[T4VERTS]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sturzinator

If they had shrunk it 20% but everyone was still kicking at 100% success would it really matter? The outcome is the same.

Everyone isn't kicking 100% and they have the stats to prove it, not sure what your point is.

[SECElit3]

Quote: Originally Posted by T4VERTS

So basically you made up a number? Got it.

I was was making a point. I have no idea what the exact percentage is. However, the kick meter on All-Madden is extremely slowed down from what it was out of the box. And looking at the pictures Jay D posted, that sure looks like more than 10%.


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[T4VERTS]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

I was was making a point. I have no idea what the exact percentage is. However, the kick meter on All-Madden is extremely slowed down from what it was out of the box. And looking at the pictures Jay D posted, that sure looks like more than 10%. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Making up a number does not prove a point. The meter has always changed size based on distance, so the fact he showed three different distances at different sizes means nothing. The speed was not changed, but rather your perception may have. You want this to be true, but the fact is what you are saying is not.

[booker21]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

You make a good point with the last paragraph. That is exactly how I feel about Madden year after year, after several patches. The game becomes monotonous. It gets to a point where there is no strategy or true understanding of football concepts required for success. It gets to the point where ratings are no longer a factor, and the skill of the player wins out. It becomes a game built for the online gamer. I like game play that makes me think. Madden 17 was an amazing game release day. I loved it! Sadly, I don't feel it is that game anymore, and even more sad, I see it moving farther and farther away. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Well they are going for this. After reading some tweets basically is what "championship" players who play for $ are asking to remove everything that is not controlled by the player.

And i think they are doing it.

1.-QB acc reduce, it`s almost imposible to throw a erratic pass to the ground.
2.-Drops by contact
3.-Kickin (this has something to do with the user but still)
4.-reduce break tackles
5.-drop interceptions
6.-wide open pass

How you can`t expect to get a monotonous game after all these changes?

This Forum has no comparison to what i read on tweeter, the most casual player on this forum is god sim compared to many of those that are on tweeter complaining about how they are in perfect position to do X and something unexpected happens, like drop a pass or miss the tackle or whatever.

[Champion8877]

Quote: Originally Posted by SECElit3

Says uninstalling the game, reinstalling the game without the patch, and seeing for yourself. The difference is obvious as to what it was and what it is now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

A few pages ago you said you didn't and weren't going to install this patch. Now you are bringing up "obvious" differences pre and post patch, but you haven't played post patch? That doesn't make sense

I've played multiple games on all pro. There isn't a noticeable difference in speed, at least on all pro. And if there is a difference, it's very minimal and sure as hell not 30%


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