Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by booker21

Sacks don't represent pass rush. You can get 0 sacks and still get a lot of pass rush or you can get 4 sacks. And the rest of the 30 passes have no pass rush at all. The pocket it's not realistic. In real life QB need to move around. DL rarely push and "break" the ol. It's like a wall were sometimes a DL get pass through. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I guess I'm just oblivious to several balls being thrown OUB by the QB's who sense pressure.

[xzayla]

I finally decided to delete the tuner and I agree with everyone saying the tackles are so much better without it. the tackles are much more organic looking without it.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Looks like SEC recruited some people to back his opinions. No, SEC, I'm just kidding. I didn't doubt your observations or opinions, no need to play the victim card there. It's pretty much a universal opinion throughout this thread that ypc has been reduced. Some people like it, some people don't. I'm the opposite of Gossen and the opposite of the others who liked the organic tackles prior to the tuner. The running was too easy prior to the tuner. I wonder if the game was tuned out of the box what it is currently, would the complaining still be there? Like Charter, I still see RB's spinning and juking and making me miss tackles. And, not every tackle is a hard hitting tackle in my game. It's just going back into that cycle, to each their own. I think we both can agree that opinions are pretty much split and based off that, one side isn't going to change the opinions of the other side. It's sad that some people are having issues post-turner.

Hey Road, you know I value your opinion on this more more than others, so I gotta say I'm not disappointed with what the tuner did for the game play. I was sick of all the big runs by myself and the cpu. Running was definitely easier.

I can't explain what I'm really trying to say, though. The game feels "stiff". There doesn't seem to be anything organic about it anymore. The tackles were actually a thing of beauty sometimes.

Everything now seems to be a 1v1 tackle in a canned animation. That's what I'm disappointed with. That portion of the game just animates stiff and ugly to me now. I could look past the qb accuracy issues and lack of D line pressure. Hell, I even looked past the AI and their faulty coverage on Go routes. The game is still very good, but it doesn't look and feel as good as it did on the field after this turner.

That's what my whole issue is.

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[booker21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

Hey Road, you know I value your opinion on this more more than others, so I gotta say I'm not disappointed with what the tuner did for the game play. I was sick of all the big runs by myself and the cpu. Running was definitely easier. I can't explain what I'm really trying to say, though. The game feels "stiff". There doesn't seem to be anything organic about it anymore. The tackles were actually a thing of beauty sometimes. Everything now seems to be a 1v1 tackle in a canned animation. That's what I'm disappointed with. That portion of the game just animates stiff and ugly to me now. I could look past the qb accuracy issues and lack of D line pressure. Hell, I even looked past the AI and their faulty coverage on Go routes. The game is still very good, but it doesn't look and feel as good as it did on the field after this turner. That's what my whole issue is. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

We understand. other people are seeing the same thing.

[ehh]

Pardon my ignorance, can we delete the tuner and still use our cloud CFMs? Or are cloud CFMs forced to use the most current tuners & patches?

[Big Bankhead]

That's my issue as well. The lack of pressure and loss of organic tackling has kinda ruined the game for me.

[feeq14]

The tackling doesn't feel any different to me. The pressure is more realistic to me. I don't know what yo guys are looking for. you might need to play with your sliders a bit. The "insta shed" is completely awful and i'm glad it's gone

[bcruise]

Would love some of you guys to explain this "organic tackling" that you say has disappeared. If you mean ragdoll, I can still absolutely see it by the odd little glitches that pop up sometimes like a leg being perfectly straightened out while the rest of the body looks natural. Nor is every hit a "big" hit where the impact itself is the tackle (though they definitely still happen from time to time). So obviously I'm missing something that you guys are claiming.

If you say this is something you can only "feel" is different rather than see definitively (and therefore can't explain it to someone who isn't seeing it), don't expect a whole lot to change. The devs need actual tangible proof of something being wrong or different to "make it like it was" again.

I'm not denying your claims. Believe me, I know what this feels like. When the baseball game came out this year I was in a small group of people who saw constant FPS problems in certain situations. This was extremely difficult to explain to people UNTIL I showed proof (which was not easy because of the nature of 30 FPS captured video on PS4). Then more people came to understand what I was talking about, and although nothing ended up changing the game in that regard (it was probably an unpatchable issue), I think the discussion was more productive for it.

Help me see what you're seeing - that's all I'm asking.