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[Introspectah]

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Ideally it shouldn't, but it is programmed to function that way, and unfortunately is still very far from playing flawfully like a human does.

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If "it is programmed to function that way" I say it's badly programmed.

Agreed.

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Can you tell how many you consider to be "aplenty"? Can you show us a video showing your claims?

My judgement of the reasonability of the quantity and frequency of fouls i see occur in this game happens in comparison to last year's track record of fouls which didn't come anywhere near the amount of fouls one should be seeing.

By aplenty, i mean to commend an amount of 4 fouls across a game of 8 minutes, which is an amount that satisfies me greatly when compared to last season's legacy of AI error.
In here you can see a reasonable amount of fouls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cer-aPUS9M
By Real Madrid, as well, if memory doesn't deceive me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn9Vr4zOJwg
I think the majority of fouls committed in this game happened in the second part of the game i uploaded.

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I give you one simple example: How many fouls you see in real life made in aerial battles? How many do you see in FIFA or PES in the same context?

We share the same premises and judgements.

For a long time now i've abanonded most if not all of my hopes for EA to make the AI play as organically as it ideally should be---if it's meant to replicate human behaviour---which has made it easier for me to reconcile with certain patterns which recur every year, and which also, quite understandably, disappoint people every year.

The AI's nowhere near acting like it would be supposed to, in our eyes, but i say it's not that badly performing either...at least in the demo...

[Introspectah]

Quote: Originally Posted by Und Lahm

I agree on the issue of fouls. Yes, I can goad the CPU into fouling me, so I do see a decent number of fouls. But, where the realism fails in FIFA, is that fouls should be a natural result of physical play and errors. Even average CPU defenders, or any position for that matter, are too clinical with their tackles. Sent from my Z30 using Tapatalk

That's cause the AI's programmed to function like a faultless machine and will only make mistakes according to where the momentum across the scale of punish vs reward's shifted.

Down to its core it's a sickening ''program'', for lack of a more suitable term, yet if one's committed to playing this game like i am, for better or for worse, there definitely are ways to make the game play more realistically.

Yes, it is up to us, and ideally that shouldn't be entirely the case, but that's the way the tasteful yet unfulfilling cookie crumbles.

[Beetlebum]

BY the way on Youtube you can find videos of the full version of the game and it looks like sliders will be in there:



There are 7 option screens you can scroll through, while in the demo there are only 5.
The two additional ones in the full game will be human sliders and CPU sliders.

[hunterdawgs10]

Counter attacking is fun in the demo. Now that the AI makes some better runs, it opens up more possibilities.

In fifa 16, the AI would often times run 10 yards away from the ball carrier leaving me screaming at the television.

[Scary Larry]

Still seeing defenders and keepers either being out of position or their reaction time is delayed a second or two. On the ball movement is pretty smooth and the game looks gorgeous. I just can't get past some of these nagging positional issues and the errant passing at times that have been plaguing this game for years and its a game killer for me, Frostbite or not.

Some aspects of this game needs an overhaul IMO. Compared to the PES demo, this is a hard pass for me.

[Lashley93]

Has the update for the demo nerfed AI?

They're a lot easier now

[Gnemi]

To hell with these patches, I am not doing that this year.

I have played about 40 more games with the demo.

Unless there is a slider for the following things, I just can't get into this game:

- The ball looks like a size 3 youth ball. I have literally no idea what they were thinking this year, but it looks tiny. Stupidly tiny.

- ball physics are the worst they have been in many years. Everything is either magnetized or erratic, like the ball is predestined to go somewhere and therefore takes very strange routes getting there, whether it is speed or lack of it, etc.

- this is my biggest problem by far: ANIMATIONS! whether they are standing still or running, the players arms and legs move way too damn fast, it looks preposterous!

Again, no sliders will fix any of these things. If anybody would find it useful, I would be happy to provide a video, but really, what's the point?


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[ricardodc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Introspectah

Agreed. My judgement of the reasonability of the quantity and frequency of fouls i see occur in this game happens in comparison to last year's track record of fouls which didn't come anywhere near the amount of fouls one should be seeing. By aplenty, i mean to commend an amount of 4 fouls across a game of 8 minutes, which is an amount that satisfies me greatly when compared to last season's legacy of AI error. In here you can see a reasonable amount of fouls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cer-aPUS9M By Real Madrid, as well, if memory doesn't deceive me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn9Vr4zOJwg I think the majority of fouls committed in this game happened in the second part of the game i uploaded. We share the same premises and judgements. For a long time now i've abanonded most if not all of my hopes for EA to make the AI play as organically as it ideally should be---if it's meant to replicate human behaviour---which has made it easier for me to reconcile with certain patterns which recur every year, and which also, quite understandably, disappoint people every year. The AI's nowhere near acting like it would be supposed to, in our eyes, but i say it's not that badly performing either...at least in the demo...

Agreed.

That's a number I am also having sometimes. The problem is that usually the 4 fouls in 4 min halves doesn't mean it will be 20 fouls in 20 min halves. Let's wait for the retail version...

Cheers!

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