FIFA 17 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

[jb12780]

Don't have the demo, but I do have a question:

If you set your CDM instructions to stay back, does he stay back or do they still go bombing up the pitch?

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[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tomba

PLEASE tell me your settings. I have a 970 and it looks DULL compared to the xbox one demo

AF 16x
FXAA-on
Antialiasing Enhance
AA 32x CSAA
Transparency 2x Supersample
Max Power Performance (Optimal still works good.)
Shader Cache On
Texture Filtering On
Trilinear On
Thread Optimization On
Triple Buffering On
V Sync ON

I tried going up to 4x Supersample but it chugged a bit.

[Benja190782]

Why has the Demo got an 500 MB update today? And what does it change?

[Tomba]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan

AF 16x FXAA-on Antialiasing Enhance AA 32x CSAA Transparency 2x Supersample Max Power Performance (Optimal still works good.) Shader Cache On Texture Filtering On Trilinear On Thread Optimization On Triple Buffering On V Sync ON I tried going up to 4x Supersample but it chugged a bit.

AH! always crazy to see things i didnt try thanks again my friend

[Introspectah]

Quote: Originally Posted by fearwhatnow

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What you're telling is that you have to force the cpu to foul.

Yeah man, just like you need to remove every ''legal'' option for a human opponent to steal your ball so that he's forced to foul you.
Otherwise, if you make it easy for him to steal the ball without having to foul you, why should he?
The AI's programmed too faultlessly for that, but it does frequently make a foul against me, cause on occasion i leave it no other option than to foul me, lest i'm breaking through.

[Introspectah]

Quote: Originally Posted by ricardodc

Sorry to tell you but "fouls" are not an extreme measure football players are forced to use. Fouls are a very important part of the game. Fouls are a frequent event. Nowadays are so important that too many times games are decided by set pieces only. I am sure you are aware of other sports like Tennis. They call errors to be "forced" or "unforced". What you are telling is that CPU should only make "forced" fouls. That's not the reality. For example, you see world class players commit fouls on amateur players in cup or international games. That's human. That's natural. That's how it should be. I (we) don't need to be a top FIFA player, a master, to see CPU make the unforced mistake to commit a foul on me. That's so wrong. Cheers! Enviado do meu GT-I8190 através de Tapatalk

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What you are telling is that CPU should only make "forced" fouls.

Ideally it shouldn't, but it is programmed to function that way, and unfortunately is still very far from playing flawfully like a human does.

Yet it makes fouls aplenty against me.
I remember Marchisio---seemingly out of frustration---assaulting from behind a player of mine who had his back towards the opponent's goal, and who was slowly crossing the line halfway the pitch to pass the ball backwards to a teammate.

Now that is a neat example of an ''unforced'' error.

Should have saved the footage. Maybe i did, not too sure.

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That's human. That's natural. That's how it should be.

Sweet dreams are made of...
unrealistic expectations?

You should know by now EA's light years behind when it comes to making the AI behave organically, but has been showing itself to come quite close in some regards this year.

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I (we) don't need to be a top FIFA player, a master, to see CPU make the unforced mistake to commit a foul on me.

No, but you do need to master certain basic skills required of a professional football player.
How else could you expect the AI to play realistically if you don't even master a required few basic skills in order to make the AI ''life's difficult''?

[ricardodc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Introspectah

Ideally it shouldn't, but it is programmed to function that way, and unfortunately is still very far from playing flawfully like a human does.

If "it is programmed to function that way" I say it's badly programmed.

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Yet it makes fouls aplenty against me.

Can you tell how many you consider to be "aplenty"? Can you show us a video showing your claims?

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No, but you do need to master certain basic skills required of a professional football player. How else could you expect the AI to play realistically if you don't even master a required few basic skills in order to make the AI ''life's difficult''?

I don't agree. If AI was playing "realistically" it would make many fouls. Just a portion of the total CPU fouls should be related to USER ability.

I give you one simple example: How many fouls you see in real life made in aerial battles? How many do you see in FIFA or PES in the same context?

[Und Lahm]

I agree on the issue of fouls. Yes, I can goad the CPU into fouling me, so I do see a decent number of fouls.

But, where the realism fails in FIFA, is that fouls should be a natural result of physical play and errors. Even average CPU defenders, or any position for that matter, are too clinical with their tackles.

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