PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

[ps3veron]

Can someone please help me with the controls?

How do you do a bicycle kick or header? Say there's a corner kick into near the goal post and I wanna perform a header or something fancy?

In FIFA I recall you hold L2/LT then press the shoot button.

Thanks!

[nunogomes]

Finnally played the demo last night, and something that didn´t happen since PES 11 happened this time: i actually played a game (demo in this case) for more than just a couple of hours.

I was so glued to the game i actually played at least one time with each team in the demo (10 min´s, Superstar difficulty).

The only thing im afraid now is finding something that ruins the game for me like the sure 100% goal we could score with R2 last year (the far post R2 shot inside the box). Fortunately this issue is completely fixed.

I had the same feeling with this demo that i had with NBA 2K16, it felt a simulaton, but it wasn´t a boring and sterile one.

But what definitely kept me playing well past a reasonable hour for someone who works in the next morning was the feeling that everything felt "random" (in a lack of a better word), the CPU plays with a purpose, they actually shoot from places you wouldn´t expect if they have no other options, and sometimes even if they do (the randomness factor)! You feel threatened when the CPU attacks, not bored, you feel in awe when CPU fools you with a play you weren´t expecting, it´s refreshening.

I could detail the positives forever, but to me it´s the overall experience that stands out like i Fifa 08 and Pes 11 once did. Both games were huge jumps in quality for me and games i played the entire year, something that never happened again to me with football games (either found terrible bugs or the games just flat out bored me).

The issues i have right now is deciding between default or -1 speed, although unlike last year, im inclined to default speed.

The other issue is of course the extreme mentality of attacking/defending Matt alerted for, although im 99% convinced it´s a tactics issue (if i had to bet, i would say turning off fluid formations solves this problem).

But the funny thing is, playing the game, i don´t feel this issue unless im thinking of it before it happens.

[nunogomes]

Quote: Originally Posted by ps3veron

Can someone please help me with the controls? How do you do a bicycle kick or header? Say there's a corner kick into near the goal post and I wanna perform a header or something fancy? In FIFA I recall you hold L2/LT then press the shoot button. Thanks!

I believe it´s contextual, i don´t remember a button like that in PES, but im not 100% sure.

[Matt10]

Quote: Originally Posted by nunogomes

Finnally played the demo last night, and something that didn´t happen since PES 11 happened this time: i actually played a game (demo in this case) for more than just a couple of hours. I was so glued to the game i actually played at least one time with each team in the demo (10 min´s, Superstar difficulty). The only thing im afraid now is finding something that ruins the game for me like the sure 100% goal we could score with R2 last year (the far post R2 shot inside the box). Fortunately this issue is completely fixed. I had the same feeling with this demo that i had with NBA 2K16, it felt a simulaton, but it wasn´t a boring and sterile one. But what definitely kept me playing well past a reasonable hour for someone who works in the next morning was the feeling that everything felt "random" (in a lack of a better word), the CPU plays with a purpose, they actually shoot from places you wouldn´t expect if they have no other options, and sometimes even if they do (the randomness factor)! You feel threatened when the CPU attacks, not bored, you feel in awe when CPU fools you with a play you weren´t expecting, it´s refreshening. I could detail the positives forever, but to me it´s the overall experience that stands out like i Fifa 08 and Pes 11 once did. Both games were huge jumps in quality for me and games i played the entire year, something that never happened again to me with football games (either found terrible bugs or the games just flat out bored me). The issues i have right now is deciding between default or -1 speed, although unlike last year, im inclined to default speed. The other issue is of course the extreme mentality of attacking/defending Matt alerted for, although im 99% convinced it´s a tactics issue (if i had to bet, i would say turning off fluid formations solves this problem). But the funny thing is, playing the game, i don´t feel this issue unless im thinking of it before it happens.

So glad to hear your thoughts, Nuno. It's weird hearing you go into detail on the feel of matches as you are usually provide a skeptical analysis, I have to get used to this

Regarding the Attack/Defend, it's getting its shares on Twitter. I made it that very short video so it can illustrate the simplicity of the fix. I too believe it can be fixed with fluid formations off, or even some of the other advanced tactics set to on. I think there will be some "grunt work" at the beginning to edit each team if it isn't fixed. One comment I received on the YouTube video was that this is the demo and it could be playing with that mentality because the demo is limited in its tactics. Each team does not have their full capabilities enabled yet.

I hope that's the case, so I definitely am still optimistic. This game is so good, even if the att/def is not fixed, it will be worth it ,on feel alone, to dedicate hours on finding a remedy.

[Hunkerdown]

Unfortunately I am on xbox , so will probably have to stick to FIFA, which is fun for me, still playing 16. Microsoft not allowing the same options that PS4 version has, is a big thing for me. Also definitely looks way worse on xbox than PS4. Gamewise it is definitely better than previous versions. Unless FIFA 17 is an entire mess, it is fun for me with right settings, do not see enough in PES to make switch, thanks Micorsoft!!

[nunogomes]

Quote: Originally Posted by Matt10

So glad to hear your thoughts, Nuno. It's weird hearing you go into detail on the feel of matches as you are usually provide a skeptical analysis, I have to get used to this Regarding the Attack/Defend, it's getting its shares on Twitter. I made it that very short video so it can illustrate the simplicity of the fix. I too believe it can be fixed with fluid formations off, or even some of the other advanced tactics set to on. I think there will be some "grunt work" at the beginning to edit each team if it isn't fixed. One comment I received on the YouTube video was that this is the demo and it could be playing with that mentality because the demo is limited in its tactics. Each team does not have their full capabilities enabled yet. I hope that's the case, so I definitely am still optimistic. This game is so good, even if the att/def is not fixed, it will be worth it ,on feel alone, to dedicate hours on finding a remedy.

Yes, you are right, im usually very skeptical, even i was surprised by the quality of the demo. But im not skeptical by principle (in games), it´s just that im a bit baffled by the way this industry is taking: all focus on dlc´s and graphics and little features with no use, that the most fundamental things in a game get overlooked (the desire to play more, the feeling of freedom in sports games, for example) and we always end up with games that could have been great but they are not.

Now, i am a bit more skeptical in Konami fixing this attack/defend mentality (and the lag cheat also, although i stopped being an online player in PES since 11) but i do not feel it will break the game if it´s not fixed and i will gladly put the hours to fix the tactics if that´s the case.

On another note, i also read in a portuguese forum that it´s possible to play online with the demo? Is that true? If it is we could play a few matches her with the OS people. Im "nngomespt" on PS4 if this happens to be true and someone want´s to play.

Quote: Originally Posted by jaa1980

Unfortunately I am on xbox , so will probably have to stick to FIFA, which is fun for me, still playing 16. Microsoft not allowing the same options that PS4 version has, is a big thing for me. Also definitely looks way worse on xbox than PS4. Gamewuse it is definitely better than previous versions. Unless FIFA 17 is an entire mess, it is fun for me with right settings, do not see enough in PES to make switch, thanks Micorsoft!!

This seems to be a very common complaint from xbox owners, about the graphics, and it definitely sucks. I remember that when i changed from PS3 to Xbox i had the opposite feeling in multi platform games, they used to look better in Xbox, less jaggies. Guess that´s not the case here.

[nunogomes]

About the online play in the demo, i saw the video (a spanish one) and it seems to work with the Play Share feature on PS4.

Here is the link if someone want´s to see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTTmwRwpHRk#t=281

Only the first 5 minutes matter, the rest are those two guys playing

[Matt10]

Yeah, further supports my possible intent to trade my XB1 for a PS4.